Thoughts - Feelings - Emotions

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,

I found this drawing in Spirit Lesson Nr. 10 and thought you might like it. 😊

Salome,
Mike

Daniel

Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for that summary.
I think I understand. It seems to me that it is the law of opposites or opposites that governs there. is that correct?

As you said, "Thinking is a process that is based purely in our consciousness."
From that quote I understand that as our consciousness evolves, thoughts are also evolving. Although thoughts that are not at the level of consciousness will continue to arrive. Therefore, our consciousness will identify them, and that is where we have to be aware of our consciousness to neutralize that thought before it continues to damage our consciousness and all that it involves.

When I refer to removing or neutralizing negative thoughts, so that it does not harm my psyche, my character, my body and the people around me, the thought as such has already been created, the energetic waves have already been created. Therefore, they already start their journey through the universe and make the process until it comes back with an opposite thought. Is that interpretation correct?

In case it is correct, once we remove or neutralize the created thought from our mind, we calm down, balance and, go deeper and look for where it came from, what generated it, that also helps us in the process of learning and being aware of our consciousness.

So, what would be the purpose of letting the negative thought already created along with its energetic waves, keep growing and damaging more and more the psyche, feelings, our body, our personality, character and harming or hurting other people with our actions? Is that being aware of our conscience?

A hug. Salome.
Daniel.

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,

Yes, this is one example of the Law of Contrariness.

You said, “Therefore, our consciousness will identify them, and that is where we have to be aware of our consciousness to neutralize that thought before it continues to damage our consciousness and all that it involves.”

This could be a translation error or a misunderstanding. I don’t know which it is.

Our consciousness doesn’t automatically identify thoughts. This is something we have to actively do ourselves.
No, thoughts do not damage our consciousness.

You said, “When I refer to removing or neutralizing negative thoughts, so that it does not harm my psyche, my character, my body and the people around me, the thought as such has already been created, the energetic waves have already been created. Therefore, they already start their journey through the universe and make the process until it comes back with an opposite thought. Is that interpretation correct?”

I don’t know and I’m not sure if your interpretation is correct. I get the impression that you might have a “new age” or some other “spiritual influence or idea” about “removing or neutralizing negative thoughts” because you repeat this same idea.

When seeking the truth in my younger days, I also went through a “new age” phase where I was reading all sorts of books, going to psychics for readings, tarot cards and these types of things. There was this idea that we should “removing negative thoughts” because they are bad for us or something similar, I don’t remember exactly. This is the impression I get when reading your point ““removing or neutralizing negative thoughts”. I don’t know if this is true or not, but this is my impression. Only you can find this out about yourself.

You said, “In case it is correct, once we remove or neutralize the created thought from our mind, we calm down, balance and, go deeper and look for where it came from, what generated it, that also helps us in the process of learning and being aware of our consciousness.”

No, this is not correct. If you removed or neutralized a thought, how could you go deeper and look where it came from? The thought is already gone or neutralized, right? It’s no longer there to be able to look where it came from, right?

A big hug and Salome,
Mike

Daniel

Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for replying.
Quote: "This could be a translation error or a misunderstanding. I don't know which it is.

Our consciousness does not automatically identify thoughts. This is something we have to actively do ourselves.
No, thoughts do not harm our consciousness".

I think I missed more explanation on my part to get the point across better. Sorry for that, I guess I didn't have the idea well put together and I got tangled in explaining, or I didn't explain well.

Yes, we agree. Consciousness does not automatically identify thoughts.

From what I understood in the consciousness part 1 video, first the thought comes, alters the psyche, and generates a feeling depending on the state of the psyche. After that, it comes to consciousness (we are conscious), consciousness shows us and we can be aware of what we feel, emotions, or what we are thinking. At that moment, oneself should actively be aware of one's consciousness. And it is there, where one's self should neutralize (control) one's thinking, in the sense that, with our conscious thinking, feelings or emotions can be controlled by controlling thoughts. To see where, how, and why that thought, emotion, or feeling was generated or produced and not to keep enlarging the "snowball" with more negative thoughts influenced by the feelings or emotions that continue to disturb and alter the psyche more and more.

I think the word "eliminate" was not the right word to explain the subject. And the word "neutralize" was perhaps not the right word either or it was not explained better.
The more indicated word is "Control" the thoughts.
Sorry for that bad choice of words. Maybe I got confused with Neutral-Positive thinking.
I appreciate your answer that helped me to understand and better order my understanding, to be able to explain it better, and as an experience for future posts.

Don't thoughts harm our material consciousness?
Well, come to think of it, by the law of opposites or contraries, it is natural for negative thoughts to alter the psyche negatively. But from what I understand, stronger negative alterations of the psyche cause damage to the brain or mind and also the body. Which causes thoughts to be conditioned or influenced by those damages to the brain or mind and body. Besides altering our egos, personality, character and memory which are also part of our material consciousness.
The consumption of drugs also damages our material consciousness.
Is that interpretation correct?

Or does it refer to our Creation Energy Consciousness that cannot be harmed?
From what I understand, that consciousness is not damaged by anything.

A big hug back Mike. Thank you.
Salome.
Daniel.

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,
Yes, for your point 1, removing the word neutralize would be more accurate. I copied what you wrote below and removed the word neutralize and took out the ( ) around the word control. This is now 100% correct from my understanding. Good work Daniel!

“After that, it comes to consciousness (we are conscious), consciousness shows us and we can be aware of what we feel, emotions, or what we are thinking. At that moment, oneself should actively be aware of one's consciousness. And it is there, where one's self should control one's thinking, in the sense that, with our conscious thinking, feelings or emotions can be controlled by controlling thoughts. To see where, how, and why that thought, emotion, or feeling was generated or produced and not to keep enlarging the "snowball" with more negative thoughts influenced by the feelings or emotions that continue to disturb and alter the psyche more and more.”

I agree 100%: You said: “I think the word "eliminate" was not the right word to explain the subject. And the word "neutralize" was perhaps not the right word either or it was not explained better. The more indicated word is "Control" the thoughts.”

On your point 2, I think the only word we need to change or remove is “damage’. The word damage could be understood as something permanent.

I understand your point about thoughts altering the psyche, you are correct, but this doesn’t result in permanent brain damage. How could we reword your point 2 paragraph without the word damage?

Yes, our Creation-energy consciousness cannot be harmed.

A hug and Salome,
Mike

Daniel

Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for replying.
Great! We agree on point 1.
On point 2: I remember reading a report that talked about the damage to the brain produced by acids and hormones that are produced in the brain by alterations in the Psyche, as the Psyche is directly related to the Nervous System and nerve centers, therefore, also the brain. And those acids and chemicals, as well as hormones, produce damages in the brain.
Unfortunately I did not find it. But looking for that report I came across this: https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Deadly_Might_Of_Thoughts_And_Feelings

Although it does not directly say that the brain is damaged, it implies that it does, and it generates the destruction of the organism and life.
However, I cannot say for sure that the brain is damaged, because I did not find the report and I do not remember well that it clearly said that the brain was damaged. At the moment it is just a personal thought from what I understand.

One could say then, to change the word "damage", that the brain, due to negative thoughts and feelings, generate substances or chemical acids and hormones that produce reactions that "perjudice" or "deteriorate" the brain. And this leads to deteriorate or destroy the organism and the life of the human being.

Some quotes from: The Deadly Might Of Thoughts And Feelings

“As soon as the thoughts, and the feelings resulting from them, become negatively and simply overpowering, the psyche and the body capitulate and react with difficulties, with pains or even with illness.
Negative and bad thoughts and their feelings therefore create psychic difficulties and even great damage, and these lead inevitably, in the human body, to very dramatic psychosomatic disturbances, which ultimately are expressed in real, physical illnesses and suffering.”
“But in order for something negative or positive to happen as a result of a nocebo or placebo effect, the most important tool is the might of the brain, respectively, the might of the thoughts and feelings which originate from it.”
“The might of thoughts and feelings is the best pharmacy of life - or the deadliest poison for the destruction of life.”
“Consequently the brain can stimulate valuable processes which promote health, or evoke processes which destroy the organism and life.”
“Thoughts, and their feelings, when they are observed in their origin, are truly only a mixture of chemicals and electrical circuits in the brain.”
“Therefore it is also possible that negative, dark thoughts and feelings can kill a human being.”
“The fundamental factor, which ultimately arranges everything, is the psyche - formed by the thoughts and feelings - the negative effects of which can actually kill the human being.”

The paragraph of point 2 without the word damage would look like this:
But from what I understand, the strongest negative disturbances of the psyche cause reactions that damage or impair the brain or mind, the organism and life. Which causes thoughts to be conditioned or influenced by those processes that impair or deteriorate the brain or in the mind and body.

A hug and Salome.
Daniel

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,

Your last post was very clear with several examples. I understand your point of view now and I agree with you. 😊

I really like and agree with your point 2: “But from what I understand, the strongest negative disturbances of the psyche cause reactions that damage or impair the brain or mind, the organism and life. Which causes thoughts to be conditioned or influenced by those processes that impair or deteriorate the brain or in the mind and body.”

Thank you for taking the time to explain your point of view. I have a much better understanding of your thinking.

A hug and Salome,
Mike

tj

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Geo

If I may.
Mike. The last three words of your question says. "Is that ok?" Mike. It is ok. The real question is why you have to ask if its ok and why you choose to hold back the tears.
Ask yourself. "Why do I hold my tears back now" but don't let pride hinder the truth.
Perhaps you're embarrassed of crying because you are a male ? Or because of your age? Or of the material content of the cause.
Whatever it is, just face it. Men are allowed to cry. I cried just the other night watching a movie. I'm a dude. I didn't cry like a baby but mostly very strong feelings and a damp eye at best. But the tears are only a symptom from the feelings. The feelings are like a cosmic freight train you can't hold back so why hold back on the rest of the process. Crying releases stress.

Only from the false thinking of the worlds inhabitants, by their incorrect judgment of others, do these questions ever arise. Your feelings are yours. Own it.

Good luck MIke.

Mike Whelan

Geo
Hi Geo,
Absolutely you may and you are very welcome to participate.
I like everything you wrote.
Did you mean to address this to Daniel or do you think I missed explaining a point?
All the best,
Mike

Geo

Mike Whelan

Mike. Thank you for the worm welcome. I'm new to this forum.

Yes, I do believe I addressed the wrong person. Your explanation was very good but I felt that Danial's question was truly only about if it was okay if he held back tears and probably the feelings themselves as well and not so much on where and how feelings arise. I felt that Danial was feeling conviction so to speak simply about feeling a need to hold back his feelings/tears because in short he said "I used to cry and now I hold it back. Is that ok?"
For myself. I try to embrace my feelings, both good and bad, and the reactions that come afterwards, like tears or anger. Feelings and emotions to me are like a Barometer for our inner self, so to speak and they should be looked at the same way we study the cause and affects that happen all through our lives.
Like "Why am I angry or why am I feeling the need to cry?
I'm not referring to Danial here but I've noticed that many many people, especially those who are lost in the world, (I call them the sleepy people) don't pause long enough to study what is about to make them react. They usually just jump directly to the reaction.
In Danial's case I mentioned 'Being a man' because I know most men feel they have to be rigid and tough and not cry. "There's no crying in Baseball" (Movie reference) Hence the phrase "Is it ok?" from Danial.

Embrace your feelings and have a good cry Danial. It's ok.

Geo

LOL.. Not a worm welcome. HAHAHAH A warm welcome. I'm rolling in laughter here.

Mike Whelan

Geo
Hi Geo,

Actually I’ve only been here a few months so I am also relatively new to the forum. 😊

I’m so happy you shared your experience and understanding about feelings and tears. We all have a different understanding of the teaching and because of this it’s really important that we share those unique understandings in places like this. It allows all of us to gain different perspectives on the same or similar topics which leads to a deeper understanding.

Unfortunately, I think many people read the forum, but very few actually post what they think or understand, for a variety or reasons, I’m sure. It’s too bad things aren’t different, but that’s the world we live in.

I really like what you said, “For myself. I try to embrace my feelings, both good and bad, and the reactions that come afterwards, like tears or anger. Feelings and emotions to me are like a Barometer for our inner self, so to speak and they should be looked at the same way we study the cause and effects that happen all through our lives. Like "Why am I angry or why am I feeling the need to cry?”

I also practice the same thing. This work is so critically important for conscious evolution but I don’t think many people analyze themselves in this way.

It seems like a strange coincidence (but I’m sure it’s not) that you bring up this exact topic of “observing how and why you feel as you do” because I just finished the script for my next video entitled “Thinking and the Will” yesterday! Below is a short excerpt. It’s about thinking and not feelings, but the self-observation approach is similar.

“Each human being must learn to observe and control their thinking. Thoughts cannot be changed by talking or by listening, or by reading books. Thoughts can only be changed through understanding the thoughts, by searching and seeking how and why particular thoughts arise. Try asking yourself: “Why did I just think that?” or “Where did this thought come from?” Try and find the reason for your thinking. This analytical process, this questioning of how and why your thoughts arose, will provide you an opportunity to understand and experience your own inner thinking process.“

What a coincidence, right? 😊

Anyway, thank you for your post and conversation.

All the best,
Mike

Geo

Mike Whelan

Yeah WOW. What a coincidence. I'll put you on follow so I can view your next video.
Thank you !

Billy

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Mike Whelan

Billy
Billy: I moved you post and questions to here: https://forum.futureofmankind.co.uk/d/54-general-questions-on-the-spiritual-teaching

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