Daniel,

I moved this question from the Neutrality discussion to this one.

Your question: Personally I used to cry even with commercials as they say, with movies, I was very sensitive. Now I don't, when I start to feel emotion, or I feel my throat tighten or my psyche altered, I self-observe and balance myself. Is that ok?

For this question I can only answer “I don’t know”. This is a question only you can answer.

However, I can provide some background information and some questions you can ask yourself that could lead to some answers for you.

Emotions are created by feelings and feelings are created by thinking. So, the process is:

Thinking --> Feelings --> Emotions

It’s important to learn how everything develops within us. So, the questions you have to ask yourself are:

  1. What feelings created the emotion?
  2. What thought created the feeling?
  3. What was the purpose or meaning of the thought that started this process?

To the core of your question:

If you start to feel an emotion and then self-observe and then try to balance, what is the purpose of this action? Are you afraid of crying? Are you trying to suppress the emotion without any understanding? Feelings and emotions enrich our lives and serve a very important evolutionary process. Are you trying to escape or hide this process within yourself?

On the other hand, if you have fully observed yourself, you understand the emotions and the feelings and the thinking that preceded them, and you have fully explored the entire situation, then bringing yourself back into balance after the experience is fine.

At this point of your self-evaluation, you have to be careful because the ego likes to step forward and create ideas that are not true. Our egos like to portray ourselves as bigger and better than we really are. For example, your ego could say, “Oh yes, I’ve explored the whole situation and I’m just bringing myself back into balance.” You have to use your thinking and discretion in order to determine what is true within yourself. It’s very difficult because the ego is very tricky and uses all sorts of tricks and tactics to get what it wants.

You have to answer your own question. Does the above explanation help?

Salome,
Mike

    Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for responding.
    Yes, I understand that emotions are created by feelings and feelings are created by thought. And thoughts and feelings influence the state of the psyche.

    Quote: "What feelings created the emotion, What thought created the feeling?
    What was the purpose or meaning of the thought that started this process?"

    Well in this case of movies, the answers to those questions depend on the situations in the movies. And knowing that movies, especially emotional or sentimental movies, play a lot with people's thoughts, feeling and emotions, using many tricks and techniques such as sounds, music, images, performances, drama, suspense, etc. In such a way that the person gets into the movie, is influenced, manipulated and their thoughts, emotions and feelings overflow even more.

    In real life, it is a little "easier" to stay in self-observation and balance compared to what I mentioned above that happens with movies.
    When my psyche altered negatively, I identify the thoughts, feelings that caused that alteration in the psyche and where they come from, which is usually from the ego and the personality influenced by it. And when it is altered positively, I try to maintain it and enjoy the moment as much as possible by perceiving as much as I can, maintaining or increasing the thoughts and feelings, also with self-observation especially after the moment.

    Quote: "If you start to feel an emotion and then self-observe and then try to balance, what is the purpose of this action? Are you afraid of crying? Are you trying to suppress the emotion without any understanding? Feelings and emotions enrich our lives and serve a very important evolutionary process. Are you trying to escape or hide this process within yourself?"
    As I told you in the previous post, my purpose is that the psyche is not damaged. Well, you could tell me not to watch movies then. At home I don't watch movies, when I go to my parents' house sometimes we watch movies. And I do it as a way of testing, or training neutrality and self observation.
    As I was telling you in the previous post, I understand that if one is in self-observation and positive neutral thinking, one should not cry. Because crying, whether of joy or sadness, is caused by an overflow or imbalance of emotions, which negatively alters the psyche. And crying is like a reaction, I don't know whether of the mind, the body, the Creation Energy Consciousness, or of the psyche itself to balance itself, and that's why after crying, one feels better, relieved.
    Which does not mean that I am against crying. There are times when it overcomes us and it is necessary to cry, it is normal. And as you say, those feelings and emotions also help us to evolve.

    A hug. Salome.

        Daniel
        Hi Daniel,

        Thank you for your explanations. I don’t think I understood your question completely.

        The movie example is a good. Movies are purposefully made to make us feel emotions and feelings, right? We pay money to go to a movie theater and feel and experience these things. We do this to ourselves on purpose, right? I think we are both in agreement on this idea.

        Your original question was specifically about movies and how they made you feel. Was this the extent of your question? By this I mean were you only describing your experience at movies, and you didn’t have a real-life example that you were referring to?

        The answer I gave above was a real-life example and had nothing to do with movies – so I might have misunderstood your question.
        If your question was about real-life and not movies, could you restate it with a real-life example?

        Sorry about the further questions. After your response I think I might not have understood everything correctly.

        Salome,
        Mike

            Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for replying.
            Yes, I was referring to movies that make you cry. But the question is also related to real life, which is obviously the important and real thing. In both works the same mechanism of thoughts, feelings, emotions which alter the psyche, which is the point.

            When I read your last post I was confused. And upon re-reading your initial post, I realized that I had misunderstood your questions. I apologize for that, as it generated confusion.
            I thought they were questions for me to explain to you in more detail what I was referring to. But, upon re-reading your initial post, I understood that they are rhetorical questions, for me to analyze and ponder.

            Quote: "If you start to feel an emotion and then self-observe and then try to balance, what is the purpose of this action? Are you afraid of crying? Are you trying to suppress the emotion without any understanding? Feelings and emotions enrich our lives and serve a very important evolutionary process. Are you trying to escape or hide this process within yourself?
            On the other hand, if you have fully observed yourself, you understand the emotions and the feelings and the thinking that preceded them, and you have fully explored the entire situation, then bringing yourself back into balance after the experience is fine."
            From that quote I understand that: Yes, of course. It makes no sense to repress or block negative feelings or emotions just because you want to be fine. For example people who say: "I can't get angry or feel bad, because I have to be positive, so I'm Positive, I'm Neutral! Without knowing, without observing or analyzing where that emotion or feeling came from. That's not helpful. It is not the way. However, I understand that I can't do a self-observation either, or search, delve into where that emotion or feeling came from with an emotional, or sentimental state of thinking on top of it. Because it would not be a real understanding, it would be influenced by thoughts, emotions and feelings.
            First I have to calm down, balance myself and then, in a neutral-positive state of thinking, see what thought, feelings and emotions caused that effect to have a more real understanding and work on that in consciousness.

            That is why I was saying that if we are in self-observation, neutral-positive thinking, and in awareness of our psyche, we should not get to crying, as we damage our Psyche. Because crying, whether from sadness or joy, is an overflow or imbalance of emotions or feelings. And I think crying is like an emergency response, for help, that could come from the Psyche. And that's why after crying, we already feel better, more relieved. Or it could also come from the consciousness energy creation, the mind, or subconscious.

            Salome,
            Daniel.

                Daniel
                Hi Daniel,
                Yes, my questions were for you to ponder. Ok, we were both confused then.

                I’m sure glad we both have the patience and the willingness to work together through the discussion so that we both come to an understanding at the end. 😊

                I think everything is clear on this point then, right?

                Salome,
                Mike

                    Mike Whelan Hi Mike.
                    Quote: "I'm sure glad we both have the patience and the willingness to work together through the discussion so that we both come to an understanding at the end. "
                    That's the beauty of it. As I was telling you in previous post, I thank you for your patience, your time and willingness to understand some things I don't understand. Also considering the difference in language and the differences in words there may be because of the translator, that may make it a little difficult to understand the message. Apparently this Deepl translator works better.

                    Quote: "I think everything is clear on this point then, right?"
                    Yes, everything is clear on this point then.
                    Is what I wrote in the previous post correct. About what I understand about crying and why we should not get to cry?

                    Salome.
                    Daniel

                        Daniel
                        Hi Daniel,

                        Great, we are making progress…let’s continue!

                        Your question: “Is what I wrote in the previous post correct. About what I understand about crying and why we should not get to cry?”

                        After our last 2 posts I’m certain I don’t know “About what you understand about crying” so we have to discuss it further and clarify things.

                        1. Generally, it’s not right to judge a person’s understanding of something, in this case, “Your understanding about crying” because it forms a judgement for or against your understanding. I spoke about this in the Neutrality video. 😊
                        2. I honestly don’t know “About what you understand about crying”. We have only been discussing these topics for a few weeks. I do have some knowledge of your thinking through your writing but I don’t know you well. If, for example, we were good friends, we knew each other well, we spoke the same language and we talked together often in person, then I might be able to provide some assessment of your understanding.
                        3. The only way for you to know for sure “About what you understand about crying” is through your own thinking, exploration and pondering.

                        I think you probably know and understand what I just wrote above. However, I wanted to state it clearly again in case others read this post.

                        It’s not possible for me to tell you if your understanding is correct or not. Only you can do that. However, I can help you to know or to learn if all the components of your understanding are correct. By this I mean what is your understanding words such as definition and understanding – or what are feelings or emotions – or how certain processes of thinking work and other examples like these. Then, only you can “assemble” all these things to form your understanding of something.

                        I hope DeepL can translate this last paragraph correctly. I don't know how to write this anymore simply. ☹ But this is a very important point.

                        Could we start from the beginning on this question and move through it with our discussion slowly?

                        1. State your understanding as clearly as possible. (About crying)
                        2. I’ll ask you questions so then I can understand the same thing as you
                        3. Then we can explore and discuss if your understanding is correct or not. (Actually, you will make this determination 😊)

                        Does this plan of discussion sound good to you? Maybe you have some suggestions as well?

                        Salome,
                        Mike

                            Mike Whelan Hi Mike.
                            Ok, that's fine with me. I'll try to explain as clearly as possible what I understand about crying.

                            When we have an overflow, or imbalance of emotions, or feelings, either by personal influences, influences of other people, identification with something or someone, shocking or traumatic situations, disappointments, betrayals, deceptions, attachment, jealousy, misunderstanding of things, etc., we usually cry. This is normal. Everyone at some point in life goes through these situations and we cry. This also helps us to understand things that help us to evolve in consciousness.

                            The point is that we do it without knowledge and awareness of what we provoke ourselves. Which does not mean that a person who has the knowledge and awareness on the subject, for example the knowledge he explains in his Consciousness part 1 and 2 videos, should not cry, it is something that can happen. We are not always going to be 100% in self-observation and neutral-positive thinking. It would be ideal and that is what we work for. At some point you may go through some situation. But in this case I would know, or could know with knowledge and awareness what happened and what were the causes.

                            If we understand that negative thoughts alter our Psyche negatively, and the feelings and emotions produced also alter it and increase its negative effect, producing damages and alterations in our Psyche, mind, body, and actions, we should be aware of that, and avoid it to take care of our Psyche, with self-observation and neutral-positive thinking, calm down and balance ourselves in order not to reach the overflow or imbalance of emotions or feelings and cry. In fact, one should not even get to a negative feeling or emotion. As soon as a negative thought appears we should neutralize it. In the Talmud Jmmanuel said something like this in the beatitudes, that if we have an annoying thought in our mind, we should take it out. That is very difficult to achieve. But the purpose is understood.

                            That is why I understand that crying is due to an oversight or a lack of self-observation or neutral-positive thinking. And when one comes to cry, it is like an emergency response of the Psyche, and that is why after crying, we already feel better and relieved. It can also be that this response or help comes from the subconscious or from the Creation energy consciousness.

                            Salome.
                            Daniel

                                Daniel
                                Hi Daniel,

                                Ok, thank you.

                                From paragraph #1

                                1. The main idea is: “When we have an overflow, or imbalance of emotions, or feelings,”
                                2. Then you list the reasons which are: “either by personal influences, influences of other people, identification with something or someone, shocking or traumatic situations, disappointments, betrayals, deceptions, attachment, jealousy, misunderstanding of things, etc”
                                3. Then you write: we usually cry.

                                Question: Are you stating the only cause for when we cry is from “When we have an overflow, or imbalance of emotions, or feelings,”?

                                From paragraph #2
                                Yes, I understand and agree with you on the entire paragraph.

                                From paragraph #3

                                1. Are you stating that as soon as a negative thought, feeling or emotion is recognized it should be neutralized?
                                2. You mention again “in order not to reach the overflow or imbalance of emotions or feelings and cry.” – Do you mean that reaching this “overflow or imbalance of emotions or feelings” is the only way crying is started?
                                3. I think this statement answers my previous question: “In fact, one should not even get to a negative feeling or emotion. As soon as a negative thought appears we should neutralize it.”
                                4. Do you mean to say that “as soon as a negative thought, feeling or emotion is recognized it should be neutralized?” Is this a correct understanding?

                                Could you answer the above questions so I can make sure my understanding of what you wrote is correct?

                                Thank you and Salome,
                                Mike

                                    Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for responding and for the questions.

                                    1. As I understand it, yes. In the case of negative thoughts, as Jmmanuel said, you have to get them out of your mind. So that it does not generate negative feelings and does not damage the psyche. In addition to see and investigate where the thought came from.
                                      When the negative thought has already passed, without being detected and neutralized, and the Psyche has already been altered negatively, and therefore generated a negative feeling, at the moment we become aware of that negative feeling or emotion, one should calm down, balance, and with neutral-positive thinking get to see and investigate where, how and why that negative feeling was generated.
                                      Most feelings are caused by thoughts. However, as we know, feelings can also be generated by our personality, instincts, expressions of art or music, personal motivations and physiological processes.

                                    2. As I understand it, yes. Either of joy or of sadness.
                                      Questions 3 and 4 are answered in question 1.

                                    Thanks for the questions Mike.
                                    I know that your answer from this post, will help me to understand better.

                                    Best regards. Salome.
                                    Daniel

                                        Daniel
                                        Hi Daniel,

                                        Thank you for your answers. I have a better understanding of your thinking.

                                        I have one final question before answering:

                                        In Billy’s book The Psyche, he writes about how our thoughts move out into the universe, change polarity, and then come back to us. This means our positive thoughts go out and then change to negative and then come back to us. The same with negative thoughts, they go out as negative thoughts, are changed to positive and then come back to us.

                                        Could you tell me what you understand about this process?

                                        If you’re not familiar with this process, no problem, I will explain it in my answer.

                                        Thank you and Salome,
                                        Mike

                                            Mike Whelan Hi Mike.
                                            I didn't know about that topic. Something I remember reading about thoughts going out into the universe and coming back. But I didn't know that they change polarity.
                                            So, is it good to have negative thoughts to come back later as positive?
                                            What about the effects produced by those negative thoughts? Would it also produce positive effects?
                                            Having positive thoughts would then bring negative thoughts. That would be like the law of opposites or opposites?

                                            That Psyche book, and the book The Power of Thoughts, I would love to read them. As soon as they come out in Spanish I would buy them without hesitation. Although I am sure that something like what happens to Michael Uyttebroek would happen to me. In the sense that I would go away, my conscience would fly and one and a thousand thoughts and reflections would come to me, so it would be very hard for me to finish reading it, since it is difficult for me to concentrate again after reading those topics. And I have to start reading again to be able to try to concentrate on reading and land. Just that one thing you told me that appears in the Psyche book, left me with many thoughts.

                                            I look forward to your response on that topic.
                                            Thank you very much Mike.
                                            Best regards. Salome

                                                Daniel
                                                Hi Daniel,

                                                Ok, below is a short summary of what is written in Billy’s book, The Psyche.

                                                Thinking is a process that is based purely in our consciousness.

                                                Every thought has an effect (1) on our character, (2) on our body (through the psyche) and (3) in the environment which also affects other people.

                                                Thinking creates energetical waves of the highest frequency. These energetical waves leave our consciousness, brain and head and move out into the universe unhindered and unstoppable.

                                                These energetical waves are also called swinging waves. (We have discussed this term before.)

                                                After these energetical waves (thoughts) have propagated out into the universe, they begin to start their way back to their sender but are transformed into an opposite.

                                                This means that positive thoughts are transformed into negative and negative thoughts are transformed into positive.

                                                The reason for this is our consciousness requires both the positive and the negative in order to evolve. Evolution cannot be achieved with only all positive or only all negative.

                                                From this explanation you should be able to understand that when a negative thought is put out, then a positive thought is received. And when a positive thought is put out, a negative one is received.

                                                This makes it possible for us to receive “an opposing value”. By this I mean when we think of something positive, we also receive something negative and can thereby put them both together through our thinking process in order to again come up with something negative or positive – in which case the whole process starts all over again.

                                                This is one of the ways how our consciousness evolves: through the negative and the positive and the thought work that resolves them into something new.

                                                Let’s discuss this topic and I can answer any questions you might have before going back to your original question.

                                                Salome,
                                                Mike

                                                    Daniel
                                                    Hi Daniel,

                                                    I found this drawing in Spirit Lesson Nr. 10 and thought you might like it. 😊

                                                    Salome,
                                                    Mike

                                                      Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for that summary.
                                                      I think I understand. It seems to me that it is the law of opposites or opposites that governs there. is that correct?

                                                      As you said, "Thinking is a process that is based purely in our consciousness."
                                                      From that quote I understand that as our consciousness evolves, thoughts are also evolving. Although thoughts that are not at the level of consciousness will continue to arrive. Therefore, our consciousness will identify them, and that is where we have to be aware of our consciousness to neutralize that thought before it continues to damage our consciousness and all that it involves.

                                                      When I refer to removing or neutralizing negative thoughts, so that it does not harm my psyche, my character, my body and the people around me, the thought as such has already been created, the energetic waves have already been created. Therefore, they already start their journey through the universe and make the process until it comes back with an opposite thought. Is that interpretation correct?

                                                      In case it is correct, once we remove or neutralize the created thought from our mind, we calm down, balance and, go deeper and look for where it came from, what generated it, that also helps us in the process of learning and being aware of our consciousness.

                                                      So, what would be the purpose of letting the negative thought already created along with its energetic waves, keep growing and damaging more and more the psyche, feelings, our body, our personality, character and harming or hurting other people with our actions? Is that being aware of our conscience?

                                                      A hug. Salome.
                                                      Daniel.

                                                          Daniel
                                                          Hi Daniel,

                                                          Yes, this is one example of the Law of Contrariness.

                                                          You said, “Therefore, our consciousness will identify them, and that is where we have to be aware of our consciousness to neutralize that thought before it continues to damage our consciousness and all that it involves.”

                                                          This could be a translation error or a misunderstanding. I don’t know which it is.

                                                          1. Our consciousness doesn’t automatically identify thoughts. This is something we have to actively do ourselves.
                                                          2. No, thoughts do not damage our consciousness.

                                                          You said, “When I refer to removing or neutralizing negative thoughts, so that it does not harm my psyche, my character, my body and the people around me, the thought as such has already been created, the energetic waves have already been created. Therefore, they already start their journey through the universe and make the process until it comes back with an opposite thought. Is that interpretation correct?”

                                                          I don’t know and I’m not sure if your interpretation is correct. I get the impression that you might have a “new age” or some other “spiritual influence or idea” about “removing or neutralizing negative thoughts” because you repeat this same idea.

                                                          When seeking the truth in my younger days, I also went through a “new age” phase where I was reading all sorts of books, going to psychics for readings, tarot cards and these types of things. There was this idea that we should “removing negative thoughts” because they are bad for us or something similar, I don’t remember exactly. This is the impression I get when reading your point ““removing or neutralizing negative thoughts”. I don’t know if this is true or not, but this is my impression. Only you can find this out about yourself.

                                                          You said, “In case it is correct, once we remove or neutralize the created thought from our mind, we calm down, balance and, go deeper and look for where it came from, what generated it, that also helps us in the process of learning and being aware of our consciousness.”

                                                          No, this is not correct. If you removed or neutralized a thought, how could you go deeper and look where it came from? The thought is already gone or neutralized, right? It’s no longer there to be able to look where it came from, right?

                                                          A big hug and Salome,
                                                          Mike

                                                              Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for replying.
                                                              Quote: "This could be a translation error or a misunderstanding. I don't know which it is.

                                                              1. Our consciousness does not automatically identify thoughts. This is something we have to actively do ourselves.
                                                              2. No, thoughts do not harm our consciousness".

                                                              I think I missed more explanation on my part to get the point across better. Sorry for that, I guess I didn't have the idea well put together and I got tangled in explaining, or I didn't explain well.

                                                              1. Yes, we agree. Consciousness does not automatically identify thoughts.

                                                              From what I understood in the consciousness part 1 video, first the thought comes, alters the psyche, and generates a feeling depending on the state of the psyche. After that, it comes to consciousness (we are conscious), consciousness shows us and we can be aware of what we feel, emotions, or what we are thinking. At that moment, oneself should actively be aware of one's consciousness. And it is there, where one's self should neutralize (control) one's thinking, in the sense that, with our conscious thinking, feelings or emotions can be controlled by controlling thoughts. To see where, how, and why that thought, emotion, or feeling was generated or produced and not to keep enlarging the "snowball" with more negative thoughts influenced by the feelings or emotions that continue to disturb and alter the psyche more and more.

                                                              I think the word "eliminate" was not the right word to explain the subject. And the word "neutralize" was perhaps not the right word either or it was not explained better.
                                                              The more indicated word is "Control" the thoughts.
                                                              Sorry for that bad choice of words. Maybe I got confused with Neutral-Positive thinking.
                                                              I appreciate your answer that helped me to understand and better order my understanding, to be able to explain it better, and as an experience for future posts.

                                                              1. Don't thoughts harm our material consciousness?
                                                                Well, come to think of it, by the law of opposites or contraries, it is natural for negative thoughts to alter the psyche negatively. But from what I understand, stronger negative alterations of the psyche cause damage to the brain or mind and also the body. Which causes thoughts to be conditioned or influenced by those damages to the brain or mind and body. Besides altering our egos, personality, character and memory which are also part of our material consciousness.
                                                                The consumption of drugs also damages our material consciousness.
                                                                Is that interpretation correct?

                                                              Or does it refer to our Creation Energy Consciousness that cannot be harmed?
                                                              From what I understand, that consciousness is not damaged by anything.

                                                              A big hug back Mike. Thank you.
                                                              Salome.
                                                              Daniel.

                                                                  Daniel
                                                                  Hi Daniel,
                                                                  Yes, for your point 1, removing the word neutralize would be more accurate. I copied what you wrote below and removed the word neutralize and took out the ( ) around the word control. This is now 100% correct from my understanding. Good work Daniel!

                                                                  “After that, it comes to consciousness (we are conscious), consciousness shows us and we can be aware of what we feel, emotions, or what we are thinking. At that moment, oneself should actively be aware of one's consciousness. And it is there, where one's self should control one's thinking, in the sense that, with our conscious thinking, feelings or emotions can be controlled by controlling thoughts. To see where, how, and why that thought, emotion, or feeling was generated or produced and not to keep enlarging the "snowball" with more negative thoughts influenced by the feelings or emotions that continue to disturb and alter the psyche more and more.”

                                                                  I agree 100%: You said: “I think the word "eliminate" was not the right word to explain the subject. And the word "neutralize" was perhaps not the right word either or it was not explained better. The more indicated word is "Control" the thoughts.”

                                                                  On your point 2, I think the only word we need to change or remove is “damage’. The word damage could be understood as something permanent.

                                                                  I understand your point about thoughts altering the psyche, you are correct, but this doesn’t result in permanent brain damage. How could we reword your point 2 paragraph without the word damage?

                                                                  Yes, our Creation-energy consciousness cannot be harmed.

                                                                  A hug and Salome,
                                                                  Mike

                                                                      Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for replying.
                                                                      Great! We agree on point 1.
                                                                      On point 2: I remember reading a report that talked about the damage to the brain produced by acids and hormones that are produced in the brain by alterations in the Psyche, as the Psyche is directly related to the Nervous System and nerve centers, therefore, also the brain. And those acids and chemicals, as well as hormones, produce damages in the brain.
                                                                      Unfortunately I did not find it. But looking for that report I came across this: https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Deadly_Might_Of_Thoughts_And_Feelings

                                                                      Although it does not directly say that the brain is damaged, it implies that it does, and it generates the destruction of the organism and life.
                                                                      However, I cannot say for sure that the brain is damaged, because I did not find the report and I do not remember well that it clearly said that the brain was damaged. At the moment it is just a personal thought from what I understand.

                                                                      One could say then, to change the word "damage", that the brain, due to negative thoughts and feelings, generate substances or chemical acids and hormones that produce reactions that "perjudice" or "deteriorate" the brain. And this leads to deteriorate or destroy the organism and the life of the human being.

                                                                      Some quotes from: The Deadly Might Of Thoughts And Feelings

                                                                      “As soon as the thoughts, and the feelings resulting from them, become negatively and simply overpowering, the psyche and the body capitulate and react with difficulties, with pains or even with illness.
                                                                      Negative and bad thoughts and their feelings therefore create psychic difficulties and even great damage, and these lead inevitably, in the human body, to very dramatic psychosomatic disturbances, which ultimately are expressed in real, physical illnesses and suffering.”
                                                                      “But in order for something negative or positive to happen as a result of a nocebo or placebo effect, the most important tool is the might of the brain, respectively, the might of the thoughts and feelings which originate from it.”
                                                                      “The might of thoughts and feelings is the best pharmacy of life - or the deadliest poison for the destruction of life.”
                                                                      “Consequently the brain can stimulate valuable processes which promote health, or evoke processes which destroy the organism and life.”
                                                                      “Thoughts, and their feelings, when they are observed in their origin, are truly only a mixture of chemicals and electrical circuits in the brain.”
                                                                      “Therefore it is also possible that negative, dark thoughts and feelings can kill a human being.”
                                                                      “The fundamental factor, which ultimately arranges everything, is the psyche - formed by the thoughts and feelings - the negative effects of which can actually kill the human being.”

                                                                      The paragraph of point 2 without the word damage would look like this:
                                                                      But from what I understand, the strongest negative disturbances of the psyche cause reactions that damage or impair the brain or mind, the organism and life. Which causes thoughts to be conditioned or influenced by those processes that impair or deteriorate the brain or in the mind and body.

                                                                      A hug and Salome.
                                                                      Daniel

                                                                          Daniel
                                                                          Hi Daniel,

                                                                          Your last post was very clear with several examples. I understand your point of view now and I agree with you. 😊

                                                                          I really like and agree with your point 2: “But from what I understand, the strongest negative disturbances of the psyche cause reactions that damage or impair the brain or mind, the organism and life. Which causes thoughts to be conditioned or influenced by those processes that impair or deteriorate the brain or in the mind and body.”

                                                                          Thank you for taking the time to explain your point of view. I have a much better understanding of your thinking.

                                                                          A hug and Salome,
                                                                          Mike