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Billy 21 hours ago
Hi Mike, I am new to this channel and have enjoyed your youtube channel, your oratory skills are very pleasing to the ear. As a x teacher or one mastering the factors of learning style of learning I always had to have the 90% of non verbal from my students. Even with the contact reports the pelajaran find this extremely important to them for they risk much to do so. I am a retired military man if I failed humans would be hurt. After that I worked in sales for Circuit City, Best Buy and Montgomery Wards and started a new company called A&E repair which is the only one still doing business. You have very refined lesson plans and time to do video with expensive equipment may I ask you about your background. I live in a country called the United States of America where every citizen is at war with his neighbor for capital. Are your videos monetized humans wanting to learn from you should know that capital from same is your living or not. I have wasted over a decade looking for ture students but having a busted body has isolated the true sources from me.

    Hi Billy,
    Welcome to the Billy Meier Books topic on the Future of Mankind forum. I copied your post to here because it seemed like a more general question. I hope you don’t mind. 😊

    I also live in the U.S. so let me say thank you for your service to our country. You are so right when you say: “…the United States of America where every citizen is at war with his neighbor for capital.” It’s sad, but completely true.

    Most of the video scripts are written by me and I have help in the correcting and polishing of the scripts. Several of the videos I have collaborated with others. If you watch the videos until the end, there is a “Reference” section where you can find out which books I used in the writing of the scripts and there is also a “Collaborators” section where you can see who I worked with on the different videos.

    I suppose “Expensive equipment” is a relative term. My camera is a standard DSLR (EOS 90D) which takes pictures and does video and I have some lights from Amazon. I wouldn’t say the equipment is expensive but someone else might consider it expensive. Actually, most cell phones today take excellent videos and there isn’t really a need for expensive equipment if someone wanted to make some YouTube videos. A cell phone works great!

    Thank you for your questions and conversation.

    All the best,
    Mike

    Hello Mike, I wondered if you and/or others might like to conduct a seasonally festive activity and be interested to unpack a tender juicy little chunk, an excerpt of text with me, or six lines if you prefer. It is lines 206. to 212. PPKB CR9.

    1. Es wird eine gewaltige Neuerung auf der Erde stattfinden.
    1. A tremendous renewal will take place on the Earth.
    2. There will [be] a tremendous innovation on the earth [which] will take place.
    1. Das Intellektuelle wird nicht mehr allein massgebend sein, sondern überrundet werden von Geisteswissen und Geisteskönnen.
    1. That which is intellectual will no longer be the only decisive factor, but will be run rings around by spiritual knowledge and spiritual ability.

    What does this mean? Let's unpack it.

    I think this may be a bad translation. What spiritual knowledge and spiritual ability, what is a 'spiritual ability' and how would 'spiritual knowledge' stand up to google.scholar in terms of wording. I'm quite interested to better know and better explore what this may represent in the capitalistic, economical, trades and social exchange landscape of the thing. Is this perhaps saying that a new trade over the top and above, yet in the same area of 'religion' may emerge, could this be referring to the trade of clairvoyants, mediums, psychics, psychologists, mind-relevant health service practitioners and mental-health trade professionals etc.

    Geisteswissen und Geisteskönnen
    If we change Geiste to ghost no, if we change geistes to mind it becomes mind-knowledge and mind-can or or mind-know and mind-able

    1. Alles, was geistig-bewusstseinsmässig nicht hoch genug entwickelt ist, um für die höheren Sphären des Geistigen empfänglich zu sein und mit ihm in Harmonie einherzugehen, wird ausradiert und eliminiert werden, weil es störend und gefährlich das Leben in jeder Form beeinträchtigt.
    1. Anything that is not highly enough developed in spiritual-consciousness-based terms, for being receptive to and for in harmony with the higher spheres of the spiritual go hand in hand with it, will be erased and eliminated, because it disturbingly and dangerously impairs the life in every way.

    What does this mean? Let's unpack it.

    I think bad translation elements here. I read this as; 'people eventually get bored of monotony', and 'folks will chemically denature the thought radiation that has been causing harm to the general public for centuries'

    1. Alles Geisthemmende, Geistversklavende, Bewusstseinshemmende und Bewusstseinsversklavende wird vernichtet werden, nachdem alles die Höhepunkte überschritten hat.
    1. All spirit-inhibiting, spirit-enslaving, consciousness-inhibiting, and consciousness-enslaving things will be destroyed, after everything has passed the climaxes.

    What does this mean? Let's unpack it.

    What is a ghost-inhibitor? and a ghost-enslaver? If we change geiste Geist from spirit to 'mind' then this makes much more sense. The reading is then; 'people will make a breakthrough generally in their thinking'.

    Bewusstseinshemmende und Bewusstseinsversklavende
    Consciousness-being-inhibiting and consciousness-being-enslaving

    Höhepunkte - high point, climax, pinnacle, peak

    So... "209. All mind-inhibiting, mind-enslaving, consciousness-being-inhibiting, and consciousness-being-enslaving things will be destroyed, after everything has passed the climaxes."

    1. An erster Stelle werden in dieser Beziehung die Religionen und Sekten stehen, die als bösartigste Unterjocher des Bewusstseins und dessen Entwicklung fungieren.
    1. First and foremost, in this regard will be the religions and sects, which function as the most malicious enslavers of the consciousness and its development.
    1. Das Neue Zeitalter bringt es mit sich, dass die Erde von allen rein negativen und rein positiven Mächten gesäubert wird, wodurch eine gesunde neutrale Ausgeglichenheit geschaffen werden kann.
    1. The New Age brings with it that the Earth is cleansed of all purely negative and purely positive might, wherethrough a healthy neutral equalisedness can be created.

    What does this mean? Let's unpack it.

    What do you think this means. The inclusion of the word 'cleansed' indicates no more war, no more crime, which cannot be surely by the Plejaren history of their world this didn't occur until event 52,000 years ago. Or it could mean something less magnificent: 'people broadly manage to get a better grip over themselves, straighten themselves up and in their day to day life they lead, in terms of constructive beneficial thoughts'

    Rein - clear, clean, cleansed, straightened, purified, unadulterated

    1. Die Wegbereiter dieser Umwälzungen sind die kosmischen, die schöpferisch-natürlichen und alles bedingenden Gesetze.
    1. The pioneers of these developmental changes are the cosmic, the creational-natural and all-conditioning laws.

    What does this mean? Let's unpack it.

    I take this to just mean 'science' plain. Normal changes in a societies evolution of its culture. Oh and there's an actual science there.

    What do you think?
    All the best
    Daniel

      Covalent Bonds
      Hi Daniel,

      Thank you for your post.

      This really isn’t my area of interest, but I don’t mind commenting. I read back a little further, lines 172 to 212 to get some context.
      Semjase is talking about the age of Aquarius which begins in 2029 and what will take place during the many centuries after 2029. Many centuries meaning more than two, so in 300 years or more.

      You wrote. “I'm quite interested to better know and better explore what this may represent in the capitalistic, economical, trades and social exchange landscape of the thing.”

      I have no idea what the world will be like in 300 years, but it would be interesting to know, right? 😊

      Best regards,
      Mike

        Mike Whelan Hello Mike, its alright be at peace. I just saw the subject 'general questions on the spiritual teaching' and specially picked out 6 lines of text which dealt with words with the prefix Geistes- Bewusstsein- and schöpferisch-natürlichen i.e. spiritual teaching.

        I am not keenly interested myself on the spiritual teaching because it reminds me of something religious that a cult might do, but that's an unfair evaluation of what the extraterrestrials are offering there isn't it, I was hoping you were going to identify that and talk about it scientifically, you mentioned 'creation-energy' there, I thought we were going to have a chinwag about radiation haha. As I understand it, there is also the normal social sciences too which Plejaren also deal with, actually also incredibly important, in my opinion moreso on a planet with more years of war than any other...

        PPKB CR241

        1. The known humanity of a planet, which has the longest time with wars during the last 10,000 years, comes to a total war time of about 4,062 years, which means that it had 5,938 years of peace during the last 10,000 years.
        2. This is in contrast to the humanity of the Earth, which has only just about 250 years of peace.

        ...in their recorded history, doing the right thing, than any other planet in the galaxy according to well travelled space farers, neutrality would be more of a social sciences dissemination of good knowledge preparing for peace than a particle physics creation-energy dissemination of good knowledge preparing for peace. I found a quote if its interesting.

        PPKB CR721
        "it is nevertheless to be clarified that with regard to the teaching of the spirit, basically the energy of creation is addressed, whereby, however, with the term 'spirit' a completely wrong designation is used, with which wrong ideas are connected."

        From the inclusion of wikipedia within the contact report
        "According to Hegel, an objective spirit manifests itself in communities, while the absolute spirit characterises art, philosophy and religion. The social sciences also use the concept of spirit to refer to characteristics of communities."

        PPKB CR662
        "46. The fact is that in the natural sciences, biology and physics, unexpected results from observations or experiments give rise to the development of theories in various ways."
        "47. This can be done step by step, but it can also lead to the absolute abandonment of a theory that has been accepted for a long time."
        "48. Advances in knowledge, e.g. extension or limitation of the scope, can lead to a theory, but also to more precise descriptions and simplifications of the theories, as well as to new or facilitating practical applications."
        "49. It should also be noted that findings and models from physics and biology, chemistry, geology and medicine as well as many engineering sciences can be used intensively in certain fields of the social sciences and economics."

        Wishing you well at any rate, I have lots of appreciation for the work you have been doing, you have a good demeanour. Daniel.

          Covalent Bonds
          Hi Daniel,
          Thank you for the post. I’m not really clear on what you mean so I thought to ask.

          Are you interested in the German meaning of works like Geistes- Bewusstsein- and schöpferisch-natürlichen and similar terms or are you interested in a particle physics explanation of creation-energy and related things?

          All the best,
          Mike

            9 days later

            Mike Whelan Thank you for understanding the importance of being as real a human as possible when on this topic. I will never attempt to be a wordsmith what I type will be as I would talk to you in person. I am learning very much and will be in error many times. You started a new topic on Spiritual Teaching that much more general than lessons thank you. I would like to help others learn as they will help me. We have been given a great gift in the form of the Might of the Thoughts and swinging waves, but I have found few that give real world examples. By the time I had reach 18 I was completely locked into a path of retiring before I was 40 years for no one I respected live until retirement. I was really using the might of my thoughts and the swinging waves that came with it. My first retirement happen when I was only 33 years of age by the way of injuries from a combat ship much sooner than that planned and not as a wounded vet when I was at the top of my skill set. My next retirement came 10 years later for I was still focused on this path but this one came with two very old companies going bankrupt. 15 years latter I retired for the last time my body can take no more. The last time was after finding BEAM and after over 5 years of study I put together 23 lawsuits against the US government which I did alone, and not only did I get a much larger retirement so did my wife for her life time. They to had set in place swinging waves that they to had to answer for. I never studied law but thanks to the lessons I gleamed from BEAM, I learned what would have taken decades with lawyers to do with them refusing to take my case for that reason, I was finished in just 10 months. I studied the material for a long time before I reflected on my own life as it is in reality. I have watch Attentiveness
            on Billy Meier Books with Vivienne and see much more as I she and others do. Take this concept to SSSC and our ERRA friends walking within the area and remember Billy's trip to erra and the time they spend with the plants. This video came after Beam of Light Animal Languages by gregdougall . Have you found your invasive plants to be to most the animated as she has but in her way?

              Billy
              Hi Billy,

              Thank you for sharing some of your life story. Vivienne won’t be posting here on the forum. She doesn’t have the time and we did discuss this before she published her last video. She is working on her next video so we will all be able to hear more from her in the future.

              All the best,
              Mike

                Mike Whelan Mike thank you for your sharing your time with me. That was very very far from my live story. It was just a small example on the topic of using our creational energy no stupid religion required. Just walking softly toward the General Questions on the Spiritual Teaching and how creation is balanced and the swinging waves will be returned so great care is required. When I chat with very young ones new to this topic the very first line I point them to from Billy is do no harm that is a two sided pathway, to one's self or others. We have never meet so you or me diving into a topic as ture students can be read by thousands and miss understood. As you have just given a example of by summing up my life story to just a few lines on the might of thoughts and using a new awareness to understand creation. The world I knew as a child,( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvlrViSFXTA ) but as a young man I many years thousands of miles from any land and started my understanding of mediation states or levels. This was many decade's before I learned about Eduard Meier the tales sailor of old were very real to them. A subject that falls under this subject that has been very will covered and debated on many forums is Billy's first introduction to meditation. This simple candle exercise has been the doorway to driving many insane long before Billy in religions, but way to many since this was published for all in the new time. I can never see myself talking to myself in front of a mirror or a camera lens but this lesson can not be understood except in person nor explained unless tried.. This step is so important for if skipped the rest is empty without very hard labor and many attempts of rereading. I am going to try to reach out in this median, why would I use beeswax candles? Please take me serious for I will not try again, we have humans reading this that have read some of the Talmud of Jmmanuel and want to move mountains., Billy

                  Billy
                  Hi Billy,
                  Thank you for your post. I wouldn’t worry too much about other people reading our posts and misunderstanding something. Misunderstandings are very common and happen regardless of the people, language, method or context. Misunderstandings are a normal part of life and human evolution.

                  Some of what you have written above I’m certain I don’t understand completely. But we can use this forum to have a discussion and clarify everything if you are interested. Maybe we could start with what you wrote here: “I am going to try to reach out in this median, why would I use beeswax candles?”

                  I understand the word “median” to mean “the middle of something” or “the middle area of a divided highway.” So you have wrote, “You are going to try to reach out in the middle?” Is this correct? What middle are you talking about?

                  When you ask, “why would I use beeswax candles?”, I’m not sure in what context you mean? Could you expand on this question for more clarity?

                  All the best,
                  Mike

                  "reach out in this median" A gray zone is all the internet medium formats can ever be. You question “why would I use beeswax candles?” tells me I am in the wrong place again for ones that have followed BEAM's instructions as published on the internet and as printed a second time in the the
                  one's level of attentiveness even goes to the off gassing of vapors of candles. I am required to answer you on this question, it can take years to learn the concentration exercise and the exposure to oil based candles can slow you down and even be toxic. General questions on the spiritual teaching is the wrong place for me. But that a HARD ONE TO EXPLAIN but if one looked at this topic as the dutch boy with his finger in the hole of a leaking dam, if the dam is only 20 feet tall his efforts are the same but very different effects than replacing the dam with a great height of a 1000 feet in effect. But yet Eduard Meier is ripping apart the the dam holding back the knowledge of creation and knowing this just how much wisdom is needed to know when to release knowledge, or like the boy with is finger in a leak how much is OK.[
                  The image is of a sunset at winter solstice or Xmas in a city designed around a old religion the second is of the only obelisk to be removed in north america by the humans that live under that influence, even the humans in North Africa did not do this theirs were taken.. So my level of attentiveness and general knowledge my not match others for few would notice a sunset. But I have another question since we now know about quantum physics whats was Jmmanuel meaning when mentioning moving mountains?

                  Hi Billy,
                  Thank you for your question: “But I have another question since we now know about quantum physics whats was Jmmanuel meaning when mentioning moving mountains?”

                  Can I assume you are asking about the two stories in chapter 8 of the Talmud Jmmanuel? (2016 English version) (1) The healing of a lepper who was sick in his inner nature and (2) The calming of two possessed people?

                  On page 142 it says that in today’s vernacular the phrase “faith can move mountains” means that through knowledge and wisdom, powers can be released by the consciousness that generate self-healing powers. In this example, the man who had leprosy was burdened in his thoughts and feelings and was unable to cope with the disease.

                  On page 160 the story of the calming of two possessed people starts and explains how they suffered from schizophrenia and delusions. The explanation goes on to state that the two people calmed themselves down and freed themselves through their self-healing. After yelling at the pigs, their deep faith in that they would be healed, generated their self-healing and is the second example in Chapter 8 of “faith can move mountains”.

                  Does this answer your question?

                  I would sure like it if you would post your ideas on this topic so I could learn your ways of thinking too.

                  All the best, Mike

                    Hi Mike, I have been working on a way to move to even a deeper topic of creation and swinging waves incase you mastered the bees wax and are exploring the energies other than the material gifts your personality enjoys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpgpvUCGJ0c This video only gives a anloge of two dimensions of creation but also shows how swinging waves are reversed as best I can show without doing experiments that with high voltage could injure but this can be done by anyone. You found "On page 142 it says that in today’s vernacular the phrase “faith can move mountains” means that through knowledge and wisdom, powers can be released by the consciousness that generate self-healing powers. In this example, the man who had leprosy was burdened in his thoughts and feelings and was unable to cope with the disease. That would consume far more fluidic energy than moving the mountains I saw in the 1980's as a diplomat guest to Israel. I am not comfortable in the open air market screaming globally what others need to learn from working out what creation shows them . If you would like please get my email from James he has my permission to give it to you. I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time. But as even greater mind bending thought just how well do you understand the earth human organ called the eye,a wonderful instrument designed by creation.

                      The human eye is delightfully evolved for its purpose and function, in terms of its structure, but creation didn't 'design' anything, creation is not an entity its just a thing that exists, my argument is that folks never need to say 'universe' in every sentence because its a constant that doesn't need to get repetitive, this is the area of the main error in religion and why its talked about by BEAM readily in order to clarify the truth not to bolster religion and fortify it unlike ever before. In fact the human eye (and most other organs) can evolve in many additional ways that earth humans have not had need for, this is partly what Plejaren are saying, the whole point of this thousands page offering, that there are additional humanity's out there who also think too, and in some rarer cases their eyes have evolved differently, not outside the natural laws, within them, but certainly not a case of design work, its just proportioned to many factors, continues to evolve. So this term 'creation' as FIGU and BEAM uses it, must still be everso careful not to confuse it with 'creationism', because their description of the so-called 'laws' or naturally occurring mechanisms, aka maths and science, are additionally flexible, the natural laws evolve themselves too, and that's why time travel and faster than light travel is possible too, because there is flex in the natural laws, we can assist ourselves with consciousness, because the old religious idea framework doesn't marry up with scientific and evolutionary principles. We ourselves can 'engineer' an eye for a biological being for instance, but it will still carry on evolving after that and continue to proportion itself to all sorts of factors, it will also fail if it is not ready for, such as the case where ozone layer gets hole and people go blind over period of time, have to wear glasses etc. This is why religion creates a hereditary disease which can be measured by doctors, but which future generations can evolve free of, because we have the opportunity as we evolve to take real or unreal, but universe continues to evolve.

                      mind your own 'beeswax' is a colloquial expression meaning something tantamount to, 'I don't care or give a hoot, not my concern', the expression is still used in some places. But Billy was talking about beeswax candles. Perhaps he is referring to the religious version of the three days of darkness which advises the burning of beeswax candles, some basic research into it indicates it reduces certain poisonous gases and substances in the air, probably why given in relation to that prophetic event because the 'darkness' was caused by those compounds in the air for many days. In reality a diving breathing system to hand would be better advice so you have a week or so of clean air to breath. But BEAM hasn't given the same advice in his prophetic literature, he has said world war 3 was averted by the work of extraterrestrials and world war 4 instead will occur differently.

                      I don't know if you know this but anatomically modern humans received their dna from a different humanity on a different world according to Plejaren, this means that broadly speaking we've been reproportioning that dna from another world to suit earth and how we exist here ever since, there is many secrets hidden inside of that fact, such as why women are abused, and why we've had so much war, and so much religion, because we are proportioning ourselves to life on earth on this planet under these factors, and we also had a civilisation reset too. The Neanderthal had proportioned itself well for life here at its level of evolution of lessons, but consequence of it was it had problems breeding, many neanderthals would die during childbirth, that's not something a humanity just walks into in terms of evolution, it is targeted and precise need for evolutionary purposes due to environmental and social factors.

                      Good day, wishing you well.

                      Billy
                      Hi Billy, I just watched your video and gave it a “Like”. Was there a reason you didn’t say anything or provide any commentary during the 39 min video? I think your ideas or even a simple explanation would be helpful. Thank you for posting and sharing a video. All the best, Mike

                        13 days later

                        Mike Whelan Great you held a single thought for 39 minutes than the contraction exercise was easy for you. It took me two years to understand its purpose. The video was an example of a Victor Schburgers work and how he saw creation. Having me chatting to mirror is not something anyone shall ever enjoy, for I truly will not be enjoying. In my lifetime I have seen the seven oceans and the land masses touching them many times over. But I have yet to find a single human that a camera could record a full human interaction. I would suggest many give thought to why a telepathy race of humans still require in person contacts. I do not fall into this group https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM3_HV29ACE wanting total power. I want to enjoy others that are finding their creational energies and learning from them. I gave you an Egg's motion to ponder on you gave me a question. You did not see the seven fold reference nor the F sharp your audio analyzers on your phone should have picked up. I will never forget being called a witch by a human with a PHD in witchcraft we have been taught to read and write but not about life n the universe. I have had the foundation stones of life under my control and have ince meet no one that I would give that to, but here we have much more to share. But every single keystroke is projected to those not needing a open path to abuse.

                        Mike Whelan Hi Mike I have gave you to have and james permission to give you my email. I am enjoying your references to mountains. My I ask, have you walked in all the lands of Israel as a non believer as a stranger in strange lands? The mediterranean puts on a wonderful show.