A Discussion on Neutrality

Paul

Hi Mike,

There is no animosity from me however, I do not wish to talk about it any further as nothing useful will come from it.

That is all I have to say on the matter.

My apologies to you!

Paul

SG

Hi Mike

What is your opinion regarding the swinging waves of sympathy or antipathy. I remember reading something about this once but I don't remember where.
Would it be correct to say that if a person feels sympathy for another, he/she should control these impulses and neutralize them? In the neutrality video you have mentioned examples where we react negatively when we dislike someone, but what happens in the opposite case? When we like someone, we are attracted to someone, and this clouds our judgment?

Salome

Mike Whelan

SG Hi Sergio,

Thank you for your post and questions.

You seem very interested in The Teaching of the Truth and I remember you mentioned you don’t speak English. I just posted a new forum thread here: https://forum.futureofmankind.co.uk/d/76-request-a-live-qa Do you think you could read this post and response?

Question #1 - What is your opinion regarding the swinging waves of sympathy or antipathy? There are a very large number of swinging waves. I’m considering making a short video on this subject due to this question. Please give me a few days to consider the project.

Question #2 - Would it be correct to say that if a person feels sympathy for another, he/she should control these impulses and neutralize them?

The basic answer is no but there is much more to it. One doesn’t neutralize the waves, we neutralize our reaction or response to the waves. But this point is several steps down the path, so to speak, so let’s back up and talk about “when a person feels sympathy for another”.

The first and most important thing to know is where did this feeling of sympathy come from? Feelings are preceded by thinking. Did one of your thoughts create this feeling of sympathy? If you answer yes or no, how do you KNOW that? Does the person remind you of someone else, maybe a friend or family member? Could this memory have created the feeling of sympathy?

Of course, swinging waves also come from other people. How do you know if the feeling or the waves came from you or the other person? Could they have come from a nearby person or someone on the other side of the world?

The most important, and first step is to KNOW how and where the feeling of sympathy came from. This is the internal work that only you yourself can do.

Do you remember a few days ago when you asked: “If I'm honest, I think I can't really understand why it's important identify the "WHY we think (or feel) the way we think, feel." and I said I would answer it in a few days? Today is the day.

Step #1 - How would you know what to do with a feeling of sympathy if you have no idea where it came from? You need to be able to answer the question: “why do I have this feeling of sympathy?” The first step is to KNOW, not think or believe, why do you have this feeling of sympathy and where did it come from?

Step #2 – After you have spent some days or weeks thinking and researching within yourself, you might have some basic or simple understanding of how and why the feeling of sympathy came up. Then the next question is: “how do you KNOW that?” Our personalities and egos are very, very tricky and can make you think you have the answers but in reality, you don’t. You have to learn to sift through these “tricks of the mind” in order to get to a real answer.

Step #3 – Then you have to test your theory or new understanding. The things that you have learned from steps 1 & 2 now have to be applied in your everyday life. You have to test your new understanding and see if it is like you think, or maybe needs some modification or maybe you need to build a completely new understanding.

These are some of the reasons why it’s important to know how we think and feel.

Does this answer your question or does anything need more clarification?

Salome,
Mike

Mike Whelan

SG
Hi Sergio,

A few days ago, you asked this question, “What is your opinion regarding the swinging waves of sympathy or antipathy?”

Then I answered, “There are a very large number of swinging waves. I’m considering making a short video on this subject due to this question. Please give me a few days to consider the project.”

Today I decided not to make a video on swinging waves, but I will post an answer here so we can continue the discussion about swinging waves. I began writing the next video entitled “What is Self-realization?” and should have it finalized by the end of the week.

I want to confess, I don’t know very much about fluidal forces or swinging waves and these types of things, but I can certainly write what I understand about them at this moment.

Your Question: “What is your opinion regarding the swinging waves of sympathy or antipathy?”

Swinging Waves are a type of Fluidal Radiation. They are emitted from all human beings and are created by our consciousness which includes thinking, feeling, emotions, the Psyche, and they are created by all activity within our consciousness. Swinging waves are also created by Impulses such as rage, hatred and jealousy. Swinging Waves are the Fluidal Powers that are stored in personal objects.

It’s possible for human beings to perceive Swinging Waves, by this I mean people can “pick up on them” or “feel” them type of thing. It’s possible to learn to distinguish the Swing Waves in order to determine the character or feelings of another person.

Because Swinging Waves are created by our thinking and feelings, when we think and have feelings, Swinging Waves are created and move out from us and radiate into the environment and then strike other human beings. This is how our thinking and feeling affects other human beings without us doing anything physical to them.

Love is a VERY powerful Swinging Wave. In the Goblet of Truth it says True Love is the greatest energy and power Swinging Wave. If we were to grow our Love, those Swinging Waves would affect our fellow humans very profoundly.

To the core of your question:

Yes, when we like someone and we are attracted to them, that’s when we must start to ask ourselves questions like: Why do I feel attracted to them? Where did the feeling come from? Is it a true feeling or just a sexual attraction? We have to ask ourselves questions like this in order to determine what our attraction to the other person really is. We have to clarify the feelings within ourselves. We have to understand WHY we are attracted. It’s the only way to get to the root of the matter.

Does this answer your question? If no, please tell me. 😊

Salome,
Mike

SG

Hello Mike

Thank you for your very detailed answers.
This is starting to get a little more complex and I'm going to think about it a little more.

Salome,
Sergio

Mike Whelan

SG
Hi Sergio,

My pleasure, no worries, take your time. 😊

Salome,
Mike

Daniel

Hi Mike. Here I post the question you asked me. I hope it is understood, since it is translated into English by the translator Deepl.
This quote from the end of Billy:
"Anyway, having an opinion is always wrong because that opinion is always based solely on assumptions, but never on absolute certainty which is based solely on actual truth."

I'm confused by this other quote that appears in one of Billy's quote videos:
"There is hardly a human being who does not find contradiction when he has his own opinion and walks his own path. But he who has no opinion of his own and does not go his own way is nothing but a servile follower of the opinions and ways of others, and a model for the one who knows how to impose himself with his opinion and ways and despise others.
Therefore, every human being must dare, and strive, to have his own opinion and walk his own path. However, he who does not dare to do so inhibits his own progress, will never win and will be an eternal loser. As the old, classic proverb says: "The world belongs to the brave, so you must have your own opinion and walk your own path."

And this other quote from Billy:
"No one has the right to interfere with the opinion of another human being simply because he or she has a different opinion."

In Contact Report 835, Ptaah also talks about how having an opinion is always wrong. Although I think he means having an opinion being biased or fair to political parties, religious parties, etc. Because there it would not be a neutral or true opinion. But it is still an opinion. That confuses me.

I know that opinion does not represent reality, but having an opinion helps to find truth and certainty. Because that opinion can change over time and you get true reality and certainty. That's what I see in Billy's quote.
So you get an opinion that corresponds to reality, and thus real truth, a certainty. Because no one is born neutral and giving a neutral opinion, everything is learned and experienced in the evolution of consciousness.
Opinion is part of the definition of freedom of expression, otherwise what would be the difference?

Thanks for the invitation Mike, this is my first post. And thanks to the forum members for their contributions and questions. You learn a lot and it helps to understand many things to apply them in conscience and experience them.
A hug to all. Salome

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,

Thank you for the questions. Yes, I know you speak Spanish and use DeepL to translate your questions into English. No problem, I will do my best to write simply so the translation back to Spanish has a good chance to be accurate.

Let’s start with defining the word “opinion”. Below are 2 definitions of the word:

Dictionary.com - a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
Oxford dictionary - a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

You wrote above: “I know that opinion does not represent reality…” – ok good, so we both understand that an opinion is: a judgement that we have made that does not represent reality”.

A question to think about: Why would you form a judgement about something if you knew the judgement was not real or true?

The 1st quote from Billy is about someone who does not think for themself. He is making an example of someone who doesn’t have their own opinion and only listens to the ideas and opinions of others and then repeats them like they are his own. This means the person is not thinking for himself, he is just following the opinions and ideas of others. Because of this, the person is not thinking for himself and therefore not evolving.
The 2nd quote from Billy is about not interfering with the opinion of another person. Billy is saying that it is not right to speak badly about the opinions of another person. Every human being has the right to freedom of expression which includes the freedom to hold opinions without interference. Simply stated: It’s not right to tell someone their opinion is wrong. It’s their opinion, they have the right and freedom to hold their opinion.

The 2 quotes from Billy that you provided are not about the same thing. They are about different things.

To the core of your question:

An opinion is a formed judgement or view about a particular subject. Because the formed judgement is not based on truth, it doesn’t correspond to reality.

The question from above: Why would you form a judgement about something if you knew the judgement was not real or true?

When we form opinions, we always consider them to be correct. But they are not. And from these opinions further thinking and feelings are generated and more opinions are formed in our mind which leads us further from the truth.

It would be better not to form opinions but this is difficult for most people. It would be better to observe and to experience life in a neutral way without passing judgements. Then, after a long time of collecting experience and thinking seriously and honestly about something, then you can make an assessment of something.

Then after you have made this assessment and you want to offer your assessment to others, put it forward in a neutral way without politicizing it. Offer it in a neutral way without you personally being for or against the particular idea.

Does this answer your question? If no, please tell me.

Salome,
Mike

Daniel

Mike Whelan Hi Mike, thanks for responding.
"Dictionary.com - a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. "
I agree with this definition. That is why I wrote: "I know that opinion does not represent reality, but having an opinion helps to find truth and certainty. Because that opinion can change over time and you get true reality and certainty. That's what I see in Billy's quote." The same happens with consciousness and thoughts, they are changing and evolving.
So, if I have a formed opinion of something, that would be my "truth" up to that moment. But, if I listen to another person's opinion, I can analyze with my own conscience, thinking, reasoning, logic, intellect, intelligence, knowledge and wisdom, and see if what the person says makes sense or not. And it allows me to see things that I did not see that help me to understand more and get closer to the real truth, therefore to obtain a certainty. That is what I see in Billy's quote. And if I do not agree with someone else's opinion, respect it and do not interfere in their opinion. That this would be what Billy explains in the other quote.

An example of that would be this forum. The great majority write their opinion, judgment, belief, either to give their opinion or to learn and advance to a truth or certainty in some specific topic and that helps the person and all the participants of the forum, there is a feedback. And when you say, "It would be better not to form opinions" Then, no one would be able to write their opinions, beliefs or judgments on the forum, and therefore, no one would learn or arrive at a truth, if that were the case.

I think that would answer the question: why would you form a judgment about something if you knew the judgment was not real or true? Although rather than a judgment, it would be an opinion or an expression of thought.

Which brings me to the question I asked above: What would be the difference between freedom of expression and opinion?
When the definition of freedom of expression says: "Freedom of expression is a fundamental human right that allows people to express their opinions freely without any legal reprimand".
"Freedom of expression is the fundamental right of people to freely say, express and disseminate what they think without being harassed. It is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or collective to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of reprisal, censorship or subsequent sanction."

And you said so too: "Every human being has the right to freedom of expression which includes the freedom to hold opinions without interference."

So, what is the difference between freedom of expression and opinion, if it is part of the same thing?

A hug, Salome.

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,
Thank you for further explaining your points. I think I understand your point of view more clearly. Of course, we could also have some language barrier problems, but let’s see how far we can go. 😊

Let’s concentrate on 1 point so we can get closer to understanding each other.

I think our understanding of what opinion means is different. As an example, let me change the word “opinion” to “belief”, since we have already agreed that the definition of opinion is:

“a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty."

So, if we change the word “opinion” to “belief” in what you wrote it would read: "I know that belief does not represent reality, but having a belief helps to find truth and certainty.”

Do you still agree with your statement above with the substitute words? Whether you answer yes or no, could you explain why you gave your answer? This would help me to understand your thinking.

After we get through the meaning of the word opinion, we can go through the rest of your questions.

A hug back to you!

Salome,
Mike

Daniel

Mike Whelan Hi Mike, thanks again for responding.
I think the understanding is the same, since we share the same definition of opinion. However, the point of view might be different.
From what I understand, you say that one should not give an opinion because the opinion is based on insufficient grounds and therefore, it is not a truth, let alone a certainty. Which I also agree with because it is a truth, I agree that this is so. But under that condition, as I was saying in the example of the forum, or in this answer that you give me: "I think I understand your point of view more clearly.", "I think our understanding of what opinion means is different." these phrases as an example, and many others in the forum, should not be given because it is an opinion or belief and by what we understand of opinion is "a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty." That is the point, do I make myself understood? And when it says: "It would be better not to form opinions" Then, it would not be possible to do what we are doing now, to reach an understanding, comprehension and a truth that leads us to a complete certainty. It is a bit contradictory and confusing. Don't you think?

That's where my confusion comes from, or what I can't understand, of Billy's words about Opinion, since in several sentences he approves it and in other sentences he disapproves it. Perhaps the sentences in which he approves the opinion were said many years ago, and the sentences in which he disapproves it are more recent, possibly because he changed his opinion or thoughts with more certainty.
That is why I am interested in clarifying this confusion and understanding the subject of the opinion.

And if I agree with the change of the word "opinion", for the word "belief", let's see if I can understand from that side.
Because as I was saying, opinion and belief change with time, as well as consciousness and thoughts. And this is part of our advancement, it helps us to evolve in consciousness, therefore it is necessary to go through those impulses. The same creative days show it. It is necessary to go through those impulses of beliefs to experience and evolve our consciousness, thinking, reasoning, logic, intellect, intelligence, etc. We all go through that. Nobody and nothing jumps in creation. Then, as it will not be necessary to have an opinion or a belief to go learning, experiencing and elevating and evolving our consciousness impulses?

I thank you very much for your time, patience, understanding and willingness to help me understand.
A big hug. Salome.

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,
Thank you for writing your thoughts and views. I really appreciate it because I get to learn a lot too as we progress through our discussion.

Point #1

You said, “I think the understanding is the same, since we share the same definition of opinion.”

I do not agree with your statement so please let me explain my thinking.

The definition of opinion that we share is a fixed description. By this I mean the definition will not change. We can look in the dictionary today, tomorrow and a month from now and the definition will be the same.

An understanding of something is completely different. An understanding changes over time and can deepen. For example, when beginning meditation and after 6 months, we have a certain understanding of meditation. Then after 3 years we can have a deeper understanding of meditation through practice and insight. Then after 10 years of meditation we can have an even deeper understanding of meditation. The understanding of meditation can deepen, the definition of Meditation does not change.

I disagree with your point about “the understanding is the same because we share the same definition”. However, I do agree with you that our points of view are very different. 😊

Point #2

From what you wrote above, I believe you are stating that I shouldn’t provide answers in the forum or make videos and similar things because they are an opinion. Have I understood you correctly?

If yes, then we again have a very different point of view. Please let me explain my work on the Billy Meier Books channel and here on this forum.

I am not providing my opinion on the Billy Meier Books channel and here on this forum. An opinion, as we both agree, is not truth and not certainty. I’m simply offering my experience and my understanding of the Teaching of the Truth.

Without going into deep details, I have been studying Billy’s work for more than 33 years. My studies have not been light reading or searching through the contact notes. I have read and thought and asked questions and learned German and asked more questions and have dedicated a very large portion of my life to learning. (This is the short version of 33 years 😊)

The Billy Meier Books channel and recently this forum is my attempt to share my knowledge and understanding of the teachings. My public work is not an opinion. It is my direct experience, my understanding and my truth. Sharing an experience in life is not the same as an opinion. Simply stated: It is my attempt to share my truth and my understanding with other students who may be interested.

Yes, we have a very different point of view again.

Point #3

Finally, I think we have a point we agree on! 😊

I understand now. Your point was: opinions and beliefs and consciousness and thoughts and everything else changes and evolves over time. Yes, I agree!

My point was: opinions shouldn’t be made in the first place, but we can leave this for now. I think we are close enough on this point.

Daniel, I also want to thank you for your time, patience and understanding. I’m really enjoying our conversation and learning a lot about you and how you think. It is so interesting for me.

Hugs to you!

Salome,
Mike

Daniel

Mike Whelan Hi Mike, first, let me thank you and say that the appreciation is mutual. I still enjoy and learn a lot with you, also in the videos as I told you in the comments.
Point 1:
You are absolutely right. I realized that I expressed myself in a wrong way, since as you said, it is something completely different. And at the same time, I thank you because you made me realize my mistake and now I understand more what opinion means. I read our whole discussion from the beginning and now I understand much better what you are telling me. Also, the comment and input from user 8877 made me understand it even more.
So I thank you both for helping me to understand and take away the doubt or confusion I had. And that is the idea, what I like about this, that you learn, and understand many things that are very useful with people who have more understanding and experience of these issues.

Point 2:
The same, I think in my case, having a wrong idea or interpretation of what opinion was, made me have a different and wrong point of view.

Let me express my admiration for you as a way of acknowledging your person, work and experience, I hope it is not misunderstood by the translator, it is not an adoration. From what you tell me of your story, it is admirable and respectable. It is practically my whole life, as I am 35 years old. I hope to have those years and more, of experience, understanding and application of the teachings.

Point 3:
Now I understand what he says: "It would be better not to form opinions". And also the question you asked me: "Why would you form a judgment about something if you knew that the judgment was not real or true? True, it would be irrational, illogical and lead to nothing productive.

For a moment I thought that the word understanding and experience, too, is not a complete certainty, because they change over time. But unlike opinion, it has foundations, facts, experiences and knowledge that are a truth at that moment.
That is why one should not give opinions, but give understandings and experiences of something or a subject. And if one does not know about the subject, do not say anything, or say I have no knowledge, understanding, experience about this or that.

I reiterate my thanks for your time, willingness, patience and understanding. I managed to get rid of the confusion and doubt I had and understand the subject. Which I am very happy about, since that was the objective.

I have another subject I would like to understand. It has to do with the "akashic records", or storage banks. How can I go about asking about that? Can I create a new topic for discussion?

A big hug. And all the best. Salome.

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,

I was so happy to read your last post and if I’m honest, I even cried a little bit.

It’s very clear to me from your writing that you have understood everything correctly. Congratulations!

Thank you. I appreciate your warm thanks however the true work and effort came from you and not me. For my part, I have only provided directions or information. You have done the hard thinking work. It’s important to give yourself the appropriate credit for your hard work and perseverance.

You wrote: “For a moment I thought that the word understanding and experience, too, is not a complete certainty, because they change over time. But unlike opinion, it has foundations, facts, experiences and knowledge that are a truth at that moment.”

Yes, you are 100% correct. Everything that we understand is only valid for the moment because as we learn and grow our understandings will also change. There is no such thing as complete certainty, only a relative certainty.

You wrote: “That is why one should not give opinions, but give understandings and experiences of something or a subject. And if one does not know about the subject, do not say anything, or say I have no knowledge, understanding, experience about this or that.”

Yes, you are 100% correct. Unfortunately, people give their opinions all the time and portray themselves as knowledgeable and believe themselves to be correct. But they are not. Yes, if you’re not sure about a subject it’s better not to say anything. However, the best solution is to ask questions. Then you put yourself into a learning situation for a subject that you are not sure about.

Thank you for writing about your learning. I also learned a lot from this discussion and wanted to share it with you. You see, not only you learned something, I learned many things as well.

It’s one thing to study and learn for yourself, it’s another thing completely to put everything you have learned together and offer it to someone else.

The Billy Meier Books channel and this forum are new to me. I haven’t done anything like this before. It’s very challenging for me to write scripts for videos and to answer questions on this forum.

People on this forum ask very complicated questions that are not easily answered in a comprehensive way. Every day after reading your posts I spent many hours thinking how to answer, in what ways to answer and what different approaches to take to illustrate the point.

All of this work makes me think deeply and forces me to pull together all of my knowledge in order to craft an appropriate response. I changed the word opinion to judgement, which didn’t work, and then changed opinion to belief, which also didn’t work.

All of this work has been such a great learning experience for me as well. I’ve learned how to answer questions better, how to approach a point better and how to use analogies better. The whole thing has been an excellent learning experience for me as well. 😊

You next question – yes, please start a new discussion under the Billy Meier Books YouTube Channel topic.

Click on the “Billy Meier Books YouTube Channel” on the left hand side
Then in the upper left, click on “Start a Discussion”
Give it a title
Post your question about the storage banks

Thanks again Daniel.

Salome,
Mike

Daniel

Mike Whelan Hi Mike.
I can imagine your joy. I also felt it when I understood and was able to get that confusion and doubt out of my mind. And thank you for your sincerity in what you say. There you understand more the joy you felt.
You said, "You see, not only you learned something, I learned many things as well."
That is a truth. When you teach, you are also learning.
You said, "I changed the word opinion to judgement, which didn't work, and then changed opinion to belief, which also didn't work.
I think that somehow it did work. That made me realize my error of expression, and I realized that definition and understanding were different things. And the example of meditation was very good. That's when the impulse came to me and my brain went "Click" and produced the understanding.

The last post of 8877 is very good. Interesting to reflect on and keep in mind. Maybe it can be useful for you.

Finally, when you said that I cry a little, it reminded me of another question I have, and I wanted to take the opportunity to ask you here, I think it is within the discussion of Neutrality.
Personally I used to cry even with commercials as they say, with movies, I was very sensitive. Now I don't, when I start to feel emotion, or I feel my throat tighten or my psyche altered, I self-observe and balance myself. Is that ok?

I understand that if one is in self-observation and positive neutral thinking, one should not cry. For crying, whether from joy or sadness, is produced by an overflow or imbalance of emotions, which alters the psyche negatively. And crying is like a reaction, I don't know if it is of the mind, of the body, of the Creation Energy Consciousness, or the psyche itself to balance itself, and that is why after crying, one feels better, relieved.
Is that so?
What do you understand about that?

A big hug. Salome.

Mike Whelan

Daniel
Hi Daniel,

I moved your first question to a new discussion here: https://forum.futureofmankind.co.uk/d/88-thoughts-feelings-emotions

Salome,
Mike

Mike Whelan

8877

LOL

Wow, now that is an attacking question.

You said, “What I'm saying Mike is do you actually have a question at all, or do you already have all the answers already?”

That’s amazing for your opening question.

The fact that you believe that someone or anyone would have all the answers gives me a very good idea of your level of understanding of the teachings. I’ll keep that to myself.

No, I don’t have all the answers.

Here is how this is going to go:

This is your one and only chance to have a discussion with me. If you lose this chance, I won’t answer any questions or communicate with you at all. You will be invisible to me no matter what you say.
You’re welcome to ask questions and have discussions on the questions.

How can you possibly say: "Mike is do you actually have a question at all?" Yes, there are 3 questions that I asked you to respond to here: https://forum.futureofmankind.co.uk/d/75-thoughts-and-feelings-about-others

1. Could there be any reason Paul said this?
2. Do you think it might be possible you have offended him at some point in the past? 
3. Do you think you could answer without posting any quotes from the contact reports?

We can answer each other’s questions equally – You answer 1 then I answer 1 – an even exchange. Please go answer the questions I asked you days ago.
I’m not here to do any of the things you suggested. I’m in my Lebensabend and I want to share my experiences with Billy and FIGU.
If you don’t want to take any of the above choices, then we are done communicating.
If you continue to be a nuisance and disruptive in my forum topic, then I will email James and asked him to remove you from my topic – not the whole forum - just this topic.

Mike

SG

Hello,

In my opinion, the most important thing is to share one's knowledge for others selflessly without conditions or restrictions.
Mike took the initiative to carry out this project and I think it is something we have to appreciate and value. It is true that we are truth seekers, and that we are each responsible for our own learning and growth but guys we need to learn to work together, it is something urgent on this planet!.
If a discussion concentrates or focuses on who is right and who is wrong, or if it is based on criticizing the other, both parties are harmed and also negatively affect the people who are reading the forum.

8877, thanks for sharing your ideas and for sharing this link, https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Silent_Devotion#The_Wrong_Way I had never read it before, thank you.

This is essential: Things of reason and understanding can be proven exclusively only from one's own reflections and conclusions, from one's own thoughts and feelings as well as from one's own inner perceptions and judgements

Mike Whelan

Simon: I posted your question from the Neutrality video here:

@StumpysTreeStumpRemovals-zo5lj • 6 hours ago
Hi Mike, just watching and studying this video “once again” (I just can’t get enough). Around 22 minutes in after Crystal asks the question what if you come across two people and ones giving verbal abuse to the other, should we remain neutral, or should we step in and out of neutrality etc etc, which your answers are, your able to say your perspective, and another thing you say is, your able to give your opinion but don’t take sides etc etc. However, my query’ s again are, should we give our “opinions” even if remaining neutral or should we only state the “facts” in a neutral way, as one abusing another is a fact, I think, as we all know or should know about ethics (right & wrong). And another thing I remember reading of what Billy wrote, which I read a long time ago so my apologies if I remember wrongly, he stated that one should only interfere in another couple’s argument if there is violence (however, I do see how being verbally abusive to another is maybe the same as being physically violent). And also, he may only of stated that meaning, don’t get involved in a relationship between a couple, and maybe not meaning any two people that don’t even know each other. Once again, I more than appreciate yours and Crystal’s time and effort in making these videos and replying back to all questions. Thanks guys. Salome

Mike Whelan

Hi Simon,

You have several different points in your post so I will break them down separately for clarity.

Opinions – The understanding of “opinions”, or in other words what opinions are in reality, is very underdeveloped and consequently is completely misunderstood. An opinion is a point of view or a judgement that is formed about something. An opinion is a personal view, or an appraisal, both of which are subjective. An opinion is a subjective appraisal based on assumptions, not on facts. An opinion is an assumption.

The second problem with opinions is that we accept our opinions as true. No one thinks their opinions are not true. This is a major problem. We think and act and offer our opinions because we believe they are true, but they are only assumptions.

When we think about a particular subject, like we see 2 people arguing, our opinions (assumptions) are applied to our perspective of the 2 people arguing and then we form new thoughts. In a math problem it would look like this: (2 people arguing) + (our opinions) = (new thoughts on the situation). But the problem is: we create new thoughts based on assumptions which makes the whole situation worse.

The answer to your questions is No, we should not give our opinions. In the case of my answer to Crystal, when answering questions, I try to use vocabulary that is at the same level of understanding as the person asking the question. Crystal’s question was about intervening or helping another human being in trouble, not about jumping in the middle of a simple disagreement between people. I used the term “opinion” because she would understand what this meant, and we could get to an answer to the question. If I had to stop and explain the meaning of “opinion” it would have derailed our conversation and we would have been “off in the weeds” so to speak.
You wrote: “I think, as we all know or should know about ethics (right & wrong).” Ethics and morals in human beings are not innate. Some of the basic ethical and moral values in today’s human beings have been developed over millions of years of evolution. Other, more advanced ethics and morals have to be learned through our own thinking and experience. Like many aspects of our personality, ethics and morals can be developed over many lifetimes to much higher levels that we currently have on Earth.

Does this answer your questions or is something still unclear?

Salome,
Mike

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Mike Whelan

Hi Mike,

Thank you so much, I understand perfectly.

That’s very kind of you to take the time and help me understand. Much appreciated!

Plus now I’ve joined the forum which is great too.

Thank you 🙏

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