Jude your admitted disinterest in mathematics isn't helping your credibility on the subject (lol). None-the-less, your video is fine and correct up to the point of 4:42 minutes when there is a serious flaw in your logic which wrongly assumes the perimeter of the drawn square and circumference of the drawn circle have equal lengths. I posed the question asking you to provide the proof in order to legitimize this claim and rather than provide the requested information you chose to hurl insults. So I'll repeat my request, please publish the proof showing how the perimeter of the drawn square and circumference of the drawn circle may be assumed to have equal lengths. If you are unable to provide the requested proof, then obviously, your effort represents yet another failed attempt to fake the Pi=3.1446 proof.

Jude, you also refer to the base of the pyramid in one of your calculations however, the Giza pyramid base dimension is unknown. Billy has never shared the true and precise Giza pyramid base dimension. If you recall Billy provided the original height of the Giza pyramid but not the pyramid base. Since the precise Giza pyramid base dimension is unknown it may not be used in any proof. Guido calculated a base dimension using the pyramid height provided by Billy, and by assuming a Golden Ratio relationship of the height-to-base, however this is an assumption nothing more. Finally, all and any software you, Arthur, and others, have been using attempting to fake Pi=3.1446, is actually encoded with traditional Pi=3.14159. Even Harry Lear's famous round disk, cut on a CNC machine, was actually cut digitally using Pi=3.14146. Imagine that.

Dear Arthur, was hoping you would chime in with your 2-cents! Rarely do the FIGU Radicals, pushing the Pi=3.1446 LIE, ever refer to the Contact Report references, but you've made an exception by referring to CR 251. If you actually read CR 251 carefully, it states the error in Pi will be solved by our future scientists while working brilliantly together to solve the problem with our dying Sun and thereby discover the error in the Pi number. Since our Sun is not dying anytime soon, this clearly indicates that the error in Pi will not be solved for a very very long time; and its true value likely remain unknown for hundreds of years. To propose the error in Pi has been solved now, and its true value Pi=3.1446 is simply preposterous relative to the credible and reliable information in the Contact Reports.

Arthur hope you realize what transpired when Harry visited Switzerland, originate from Harry himself. Imagine if Harry also claimed the Plejaren took him for a quick trip to the moon as a small reward for his brilliant effort solving the true and correct Pi=3.1446, you'd believe that too. Well you may be gullible and believe what anyone tells you, however what reason do I or anyone else have to believe Harry's accounts of what truly transpired in Switzerland? Even Christian Frehner, who foolishly endorsed Harry's nonsense Pi=3.1446 in Bulletin #77, was at least smart enough not to publish any references to the Plejaren accepting Harry's proof Pi=3.1446. Further, if what you describe of Harry's accounts actually happened in Switzerland, then the information should be shared and published in the Contact Reports for the entire FIGU Community to benefit from this knowledge instead of keeping it shrouded in secrecy. Yet none of Harry's visit to Switzerland has ever been published nor mentioned in any Contact Reports nor did Harry even talk to Billy Meier while he was there. You would think Billy might be at least curious to meet the amazing Harry Lear, the person who discovered the true and correct Pi=3.1446; yet Billy couldn't be care less about meeting the infamous Harry; inventor of Pi=3.1446. In fact the only source for the claim the Plejaren accepted Harry's proof Pi=3.1446 originates from none other than Harry Lear himself which is hardly a credible reference.

You may not understand my purpose for posting on this forum, so let me spell-it-out. Although my posts are directed to the FIGU Radicals, who operate as a faction within the FIGU Community pushing their belief the true and correct Pi=3.1446, my primary intent is to warn the FIGU Community of a faction of Radicals operating within pushing their Pi=3.1446 LIE; who have enjoyed free reign and have gone unchallenged for far too long and a second opinion will help those undecided within the FIGU Community form their own logic and conclusion and ultimately make an informed and educated decision.

The primarily difference is that the FIGU Radicals, pushing the true and correct Pi=3.1446, have absolutely no Contact Report references to support their claim Pi=3.1446 whereas I present information directly from the Contact Reports which clearly state the true and correct Pi is unknown to Earth humans (Ptaah CR 712 & Billy 722) and that traditional Pi=3.14149 is currently the best approximation of the true and correct Pi (Ptaah CR 712).

Billy Meier knows the true and correct Pi is unknown to Earth humans (CR 722), due to our limited technology, which means the FIGU Radicals claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446..., are lying, plain and simple. Further, every scientist, mathematician and engineer in the entire world knows Pi=3.1446 is a LIE.

However the FIGU Radicals are quite influential, with pied-piper like charm, have gone virtually unchallenged, pushing their Pi=3.1446 lie onto the FIGU Community for far too long and surprisingly, managed to convince many within the FIGU Community, who perhaps do not have a strong mathematics background, the true and correct Pi=3.1446 based upon the FIGU Radicals nonsense faked gibberish proofs.

Therefore I am merely providing a second opinion to share with the FIGU Community, challenging the FIGU Radicals belief the true and correct Pi=3.1446 and thereby warning the FIGU Community to be wary of this faction who have infiltrated and been busy spreading lies the true and correct Pi=3.1446 contrary to the information in the Contact Reports. Wouldn't surprise me to learn that the FIGU Radicals, perhaps are not so stupid, and comprise informed agents tasked with discrediting the FIGU Mission by convincing the FIGU Community the true and correct Pi=3.1446. This sounds like a conspiracy, yet would be a brilliant effective plan because anyone from the FIGU Community who believes this nonsense Pi=3.1446 and approaches anyone from worldwide academic community and tries to share the truth about Billy Meier, but also says the true and correct Pi=3.1446, the academics will politely label them and fool and idiot. So if there are FIGU Radicals tasked with discrediting the FIGU Mission, well then they will have succeeded. This is not entirely implausible, so, at the very least, I'm here to make sure that every effort is made to ensure the FIGU Radicals are held in check and no longer have free reign to spread their nonsense to the FIGU Community that the true and correct Pi=3.1446. I am confident folks within the FIGU Community who are aware of this form, and reading the information I've shared about Pi, are truly getting the message and is effectively putting a stop to the FIGU Radicals attempts to convince everyone Pi=3.1446. So message is to the FIGU Radicals, but to stop you from pushing your nonsense.

Understandably the FIGU Radicals are a little upset that their silly belief Pi=3.1446 has been challenged for the first time by someone within the FIGU Community no less. Its bad enough that every scientist, mathematician and engineer in the entire world already knows Pi=3.1446 is a LIE, but my God, the nerve of someone to dare challenge the FIGU Radicals opinion Pi=3.1446, from within in the FIGU Community; well the nerve.

The FIGU Radicals have enjoyed a nice comfortable home within the FIGU Community for too long, where pushing Pi=3.1446 has gone unchallenged and even welcomed, ever since Billy Meier first mentions the error in Pi in CR 251. So the FIGU Radicals can roam freely withint the FIGU Community promoting their nonsense the correct value Pi=3.1446 virtually unchallenged, because there is an error in Pi, and by God we've found it, and its true and correct value Pi=3.1446 (lol). And so understandably the FIGU Radicals are a little upset when their nonsense is now challenged from within the FIGU Community - by me!

My efforts will be successful. Anyone who considers themselves part of the FIGU Community, and possesses a normal evolving consciousness, capable of reason and understanding, may appreciate my information is quoted directly from the Contact Reports and this will eventually, effectively put a STOP to the FIGU Radicals ongoing foolishness destroying and trampling truth by falsifying the Contact Report information and claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446

    Dear Arthur whining and complaining accomplishes nothing.

    Hush

    Is that clear enough for you? That's elementary school level knowledge. Your long post means nothing if you only ask for the bread and do not learn how to make the bread.

    Take a calculator, try it yourself. Take a compass and square, try it yourself. Take Geogebra, try it yourself. You hang on to the old value of Pi because you can't take the fact that scientists were wrong, or if ever they knew the true value, they hid it only for their own benefit while little pathetic gullible drones gubble up that fake Pi as if it will save them.

    I mean... This is simple math. If you are a true mathematician, you will take the tools and test it for yourself. Granted... The tools of our time are not the most precise, but that is due to the hard-headedness of those who still want to promote illusion instead of the truth. They sound so mych like the Pharisees and Sadducees of old. Messing up with the minds of the good people.

    Ridiculous.

      Hush
      Test the equation with any other Pi on the planet. ANY! it will never work. At all! But with the value of 3.14460551103 it works flawlessly.

        Hush
        Riddle me this: if Pi is so transcendental, why then does it have an equation. A simple one on top of that!

          Hello Jude, sorry to advise your very first equation in your very first post, is flawed and incorrect. In order to obtain 32 / Pi = 10.185916..... requires using traditional Pi=3.14159. That is you haven't explained any of your assumptions but a quick calculation check verifies the very first equation does use traditional Pi=3.14159 however this also means by assigning the diameter of the circle also equals Pi, then the circumference of the circle equals Pi x Diameter which in this case Pi because the Diameter is assigned the value Pi, the circle circumference equals Pi2 (Pi squared) which equals 9.869604... NOT 10.185916 as claimed to be the circle circumference. So already, in the very first equation you've made a huge mistake - again. Math amateurs.

          Just noticed you've been adding more software screen captures non-stop with more gibberish; sorry to interrupt your feverish posting frenzy.

          All you FIGU Radicals pushing Pi=3.1446 on the FIGU Community should read Contact Reports 712 and 722 and try to understand the message Billy Meier has conveyed and stop posting your nonsense here. And read CR 251 which says the true and correct Pi value will be discovered by Earth's future scientists far into the future while trying to solve the problem with our dying Sun. Get with the program guys. Stop pushing your own agenda and Focus on Billy Meier's message including what he has said about the true and correct Pi.

          I actually agree with Arthur that it would be nice if the site administrator would clean-up in here and remove all the Pi=3.1446 nonsense none of which is ever supported in any of the Contact Reports. In fact, if you check each-and-every Contact Report, neither "Phi" nor the "Golden Ratio" are ever mentioned nor discussed specifically by Billy or the Plejaren. The FIGU Radicals have been brainwashed into believing Pi=3.1446 and are beyond all hope of seeing the truth - unfortunately, however my message isn't for the FIGU Radicals, as they are a lost cause, but rather for the rest of the FIGU Community to help them make an informed decision about Pi, and perhaps stop them from mistakenly referring to Pi=3.1446 and save them from embarrassment when discussing the FIGU material with an academic. That's my goal, to help the entire FIGU Community and protect them from the Radicals from within.

          Just throwing this out there for your consideration, wondering if the FIGU Radicals ever have meetings, like a support group, to express their joint frustrations, failures and console each other while trying vainly to convince the worldwide academic community Pi=3.1446. With such overwhelming defeat there is merit in sticking together for a false cause like the Flat Earth Society members support each other.

          So it must be frustrating not a single engineer, scientists or mathematician in the entire world will seriously entertain the FIGU Radicals claim Pi=3.1446 in spite of your best efforts. Why even Harry Lear sent a long winded letter to then President Donald Trump falsely claiming the Plejaren endorsed his calculations Pi=3.1446, but his valiant effort has been entirely ignored by all academics and politicians, and so the FIGU Radicals sought refuge within the FIGU Community, wallowing in their grief as the last safe vestibule, where the nonsense Pi=3.1446 is still tolerated, that is, until I came along and challenged their false claim Pi=3.1446.

          I do feel kind of sorry for the FIGU Radicals, who have worked tirelessly promoting Pi=3.1446 yet not a single academic will take you seriously, and so, willing to call a truce, if you do have regular meeting, willing to help out. I will bring my crayons, large sheets of paper, and help you create more pretty pictures to support your Pi=3.1446 proofs, but no promises, I may color outside the lines. And then if there is extra time, we could do some round disk measurements with Pi-tapes. That would be fun. Anyway just reach out if you're interested.

            Hello Jude,

            My original response addressed only your first screen-capture equation and had no idea, at the time, you had continued posting more screen captures, none of which makes any sense by the way. Just to clarify my response was limited to your first equation, and offer the following additional incite.

            At no point do any of your screen-captured equations clearly and logically demonstrate how the circumference of a circle and perimeter of a square have the same length as claimed in your video. For example the very first screen equation starts with the number '32' which seems arbitrarily, perhaps this is your favorite number, who knows as no explanation is provided. And for some reason the circle circumference equal to 32 is divide by traditional Pi=3.14159 which does in fact equal 10.185916357, but its a pointless calculation and proves nothing. As previously explained if the diameter of a circle is, for whatever unknown reason, set equal to Pi then the circumference of the circle is Pi2 which works out to 9.869604401.

            The equation presented for squaring the circle, is just pulled out of thin air, a common practice among the Pi=3.1446 fakers, who expect they can just materialize any equation they want and expect people to accept it as fact without providing any valid proof? Repeatedly, when I fact checked Harry Lear's geometric proof, Arthur's proof, and anyone else attempting to fake Pi=3.1446 poof, inevitably requires presenting some illogical assumption to make it work, as in this case; squaring the circle equation with no supporting rationale or proof. So typical.

            If you truly want folks to understand your logic and rationale, properly document your logic, reasoning and analysis process in a research paper. Clearly define your thought process in a clear and concise logical sequence anyone can follow. This is a pretty standard protocol for proving any math concept.

              Hush I have to admit... I did make a mistake when describing the circumference as it should be "circumference divided by pi" instead of "circumference divided by diameter" because pi cannot be a diameter if we intend to find it. For that, I'm sorry for the GRAMMATICAL ERROR.

              But the equation still remains valid!

              Good day!

                Hush,

                3.1415 doesn't hold any relationship with 1.618034. It has no balance. It's "transcendental" nature is a joke and a by-product of weak-minded ignorant fools who are too blind and too stubborn to see with their own eyes the literal truth.

                Like Megatron said to Starscream in G1 Transformers (1984): Your knowledge is overshadowed by your stupidity.

                Hush I strongly suggest that you familiarize yourself with Samuel Laboy, Eng., as well as Harry Lear, Jain 108, Panagiotis Stefanides, Mark and Scott Wollum, Ninth Prime and many more. The days of 3.14159265359 are slowly but surely coming to an end.

                Your long posts look like the cries of a cornered dog. You have all evidences and more to come. Have fun trolling your way out of knowledge. 😁

                  Dear Arthur, to clarify you, me and others are supposedly posting on this forum in a collaborative effort to improve our understanding of the truth from Billy Meier's teachings however you, Jude and the FIGU Radicals team discuss complete nonsense, contrary to what Billy Meir has stated about Pi, by claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446... whereas Billy's material makes it perfectly clear the true and correct Pi is unknown. If you and others are not willing to discuss Billy Meier's material, including his accurate and credible references to Pi, then suggest moving your Pi=3.1446 nonsense discussion to another forum, perhaps the Flat Earth Society, where complete nonsense is tolerated.

                  Also FIGU Radicals like you, Jude and others, pushing Pi=3.1446, always refers to Phi and the Golden Ratio, which is a subject Billy Meier and the Plejaren have never discussed. Discussing Phi, the Golden Ratio, and Pi=3.1446 on this forum, makes about as much sense as talking about the price of hamburgers, none of which is ever discussed by Billy Meier. By the way, all references to "Phi" and the "Golden Ratio" have been stricken from the Future of Mankind Wiki. Granted these are valid concepts, however neither Billy nor the Plejaren have ever discussed these topics and we are gathered to learn what Billy Meier has to share with us so lets try to focus on Billy Meier's teachings and what Billy has to say about Pi. Ok, can we agree on that at least!

                  So in this forum we are each sharing our perspective on the subject of the true and correct "Pi". I'm sharing the truth about Pi according to Billy Meier's Contact Reports while you and the FIGU Radicals are lying to the FIGU Community falsely claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446. So essentially we're engaged in the same activity, discussing the same topic but with opposing views. Therefore to call one person a TROLL just because they don't agree with your perspective and point-of-view seems rather unfair and reflects a biased, judgemental opinion does it not? Essentially you're implying that anyone who doesn't agree that the true and correct Pi=3.1446, and chooses to defend the truth, according to Billy Meier, is considered a TROLL? Pretty harsh but not too surprising from the renegade FIGU Radicals. Say do you FIGU Radicals have a badge, logo or crest, as you sound pretty hard-core? If you want I could try and design a logo one for you. What do you think of this one?

                  Mr Jude, you've done a great job uploading a series of screen captures showing random calculations with no explanations, no clarification why the number "32" was used in your first equation, (still a mystery), and have yet to prove clearly, concisely and logically, how the circumference of a circle equals the perimeter of a square, a critical assumption in your Pi video. Without proper documented proof (a bunch of calculation screen captures doesn't cut it) the video reflects another attempt to fake Pi=3.1446. That is, you could not present what you've posted here to any academic and expected to be taken seriously, that is guaranteed.

                  What you and the FIGU Radicals fail to understand is that Pi=3.1446 is simply impossible, like the perpetual motion machine, essentially a bunch of fakers trying to prove the impossible. Its not uncommon, that folks pushing Pi=3.1446 LIE talk about how scientists only consider mathematics, and that Pi requires consideration of vibrations, sound, different realms, and transcendental space, and the 4th dimensions, and so on and so forth, however this is really just about math, knowing how to do math, and being a little knowledgeable in math, nothing more is enough to easily proves Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible and this will hold true for eternity. The true and correct Pi value is something beyond our current comprehension however we know that traditional Pi is current the best estimate confirmed by Ptaah in CR 712.

                  So this is why a seamless solid credible mathematical proof Pi=3.1446 doesn't exist nor will one ever be found, and anyone who claims to have a valid proof Pi=3.1446 is faking it and simply lying. The great Harry Lear also faked his geometric math proof using pretty colored drawing. A valid mathematical proof simply doesn't exist as Billy Meier verified in CR 722, when he stated the true and correct Pi is unknown to Earth humans. If any of the nonsensical Pi=3.1446 proofs out there were actually credible, it would be immediately recognized and acknowledged by the leading scientists, engineers and mathematicians in the world. But this will never happen. No one 'credible' will ever listen to the FIGU Radicals claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446. Should stop wasting everyone's time and do something useful with your life (lol). At least I'm trying to help the non-Radicals better understand your deception and lies so they do not fall into your trap uninformed and that's worth something.

                  Say I haven't got my invitation to the next FIGU Radicals meeting. Just let me know, we can try on the badass logos I made and wear them on our jackets. That would be cool.

                  Just curious would the next FIGU Radicals meeting be in the United States by any chance? Just guessing perhaps that is where most of the FIGU Radicals originate from? Billy mentions something about Americans; oh yeah, something about they're not allowed to have their own FIGU Chapter. Why is that do you suppose? Anyway we could have a really good discussion and really looking forward to meeting you hardcore FIGU Radicals. If you want I can give a PowerPoint presentation on how improve coloring and staying in between the lines. Then we can talk about all the silly scientists who don't understand why Pi=3.1446. I'll even bring a jigsaw so we can cut more round wooden disks, after all this is all about quantity not quality.

                    Hush you have to answer for the equation of Pi. How can pi have an equation if it is transcendental?
                    How about explaining the following?

                    All you do is flap your mouth like chicken wings without giving any sensical mathematical rebuttals.

                    You want for us to give proof. Proof has been given. Yet, you persist in your rant. Then... By all means... Since you know so much... What makes your Pi so much more perfect?