The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle

[Arthur]

if we cannot equal 4b=π then we can’t establish any equality anymore btw geometric figures. Geometry would be dead.

Pi is the circumference of the circle.
4b=pi means you assume a circumference of a circle = perimeter of a square.
So you just miss you said "let suppose we can square the circle".

> You have to differentiate. There is a nominal value “π” and there is its numerical value. I may use very well its nominal value to find an equation to obtain the numerical value.

Its a trick to get the result you wanted.

> Nothing of circular reasoning.

You want to know the value of pi and you use it as a term of your hypothesis.
If its not a circular reasoning i don't know what it is.
By doing this, you are denying yourself the discovery of pi.
So you created 2 definitions of pi, a trick, (the variable, the value) to avoid this circular reasoning.

> We have two expressions of the same value b and b^2, in a form that we can construct a right triangle with it.

« Let there be a semicircle on segment AB. If the vertex C of triangle ABC lies on the semicircle, the triangle at C has a right angle. » Thales's theorem.

They are all right triangle.
There are countless of right triangle inscribed in this semicircle.
So you chose this triangle (1, b^2, b) in a way to get the result you want.
There is no logic o choose this one and not another.

[C.B.]

Pi is the circumference of the circle.
4b=pi means you assume a circumference of a circle = perimeter of a square.
So you just miss you said "let suppose we can square the circle".

Again: Squaring of the circle refers to the area. Not the perimeter.



> You have to differentiate. There is a nominal value “π” and there is its numerical value. I may use very well its nominal value to find an equation to obtain the numerical value.
Its a trick to get the result you wanted.


It is no trick. Further I can’t trick the numerical value of the result because I didn’t introduce any numerical value in the derivation.
The only numerical value comes at the end as 0.786 or 3.1446

> Nothing of circular reasoning.
You want to know the value of pi and you use it as a term of your hypothesis.
If its not a circular reasoning i don't know what it is.
By doing this, you are denying yourself the discovery of pi.
So you created 2 definitions of pi, a trick, (the variable, the value) to avoid this circular reasoning.

Fellow. What are you talking about?
This is the way you work in math when you write the unknown “x”. So, according to you, you’re denying yourself the discovery of the x numerical value because you wrote x at the beginning? (?!)
To that, there is no “variable” here. π is a constant. And the Nominal Value of π and the Numerical one have nothing to do with “definitions”! You use the nominal value as π, to mark the analogies btw the factors of the derivation.


> We have two expressions of the same value b and b^2, in a form that we can construct a right triangle with it.
« Let there be a semicircle on segment AB. If the vertex C of triangle ABC lies on the semicircle, the triangle at C has a right angle. » Thales's theorem.
They are all right triangle.
There are countless of right triangle inscribed in this semicircle.
So you chose this triangle (1, b^2, b) in a way to get the result you want.
There is no logic o choose this one and not another.

Ok. Here we go again.
I didn’t choose anything !
The only analogy I chose is the premise 4b=π. Everything else is the result of the derivation. If I get b and b^2 from the areas then I will of course choose these values to find out the numerical value of π because they are solvable over Pythagoras.

I’m not going to answer the same questions again.

[Hush]

Hey there C.B. and Arthur,

Are you guys done fighting? Look just because you can't comprehend each other's faked Pi=3.1446 proofs, just take a breather, and relax, because what you're trying to do is impossible, that is prove Pi=3.1446, so you're undertaking quite an enormous task, both of you, and you should be congratulated for trying to do the impossible, so its no surprise neither of you can understand each other's faked Pi=3.1446 proofs, heck even with a science degree, accredited in mathematics, not even I understand the pretend math concepts you've both used to fake your Pi=3.1446 proofs so I'm just as lost as both of you, but its sad watching my two best Pi-Radicals buddies duke-it-out, each unable to understand each other's faked Pi=3.1446 proofs, so my advice, if you can't get along, get crayons, a few faked Pi=3.1446 proofs from the pile and just start coloring, guaranteed to make you feel better, that and maybe a few beers.

[C.B.]

This is a message to everyone reading this thread regarding the false and foolish claim True Pi=3.1446 which is a LIE and contradicts Billy Meier's Contact Reports #251, #712 & #722. Please note that its not just Arthur and C.B., but any buffoon who constantly pushes their True Pi=3.1466 LIE propaganda onto the FIGU Community, none of them, NOT ONCE, NOT EVER, refer to Billy Meier's information about Pi simply because Billy Meier's information about Pi states clearly TRUE Pi is UNKNOWN in CR #722 and would rob the Pi-Radicals of their True Pi=3.1446 LIE fun-times in here so that's why they avoid referring to Billy Meier's information about Pi, when discussing the True Pi Value. The Pi-Radicals cannot accept that the True value of Pi is UNKNOWN, they actually think they've solved the True Value of Pi=3.1446 which directly contradicts Billy Meier's Contact Reports information about Pi. I have no idea why the Pi-Radicals ignore Billy Meier's information about Pi, but it may be because they're so brain-washed into believing their True Pi=3.1446 nonsense LIE.

Regarding the narrative in your comments, only one comment repeated ad nauseam indeed, the only plausible conclusion about you is that you’re a mole.
You’re not here to spread or share knowledge but to back up an ideology, abusing even Billy Meier and his space friends to do that.
But with this demonstration of the exact π value you got stuck. It is short and simple and, after some futile attempts to refute it you had to realize that it is correct. You got kicked in the teeth and the only thing you do since then is to go around yapping nonsense.
But no amount of nonsense will refute ever, even a letter of this derivation.

[Hush]

oh C.B.,

If anyone is a mole its you, constantly pushing your faked True Pi=3.1446 proofs onto the FIGU Community which DIRECTLY contradicts Billy Meier's Contact Reports, which is precisely why you and Arthur NEVER mention Billy Meier's information about Pi, whereas all I do is reference Billy Meier's information about Pi, and make it perfectly clear how you are nothing but a LIAR no different than Christian Frehner and Michael Horn as documented here: https://hushdubwah.wixsite.com/figu-com ... challenges.

[C.B.]

oh C.B.,

If anyone is a mole its you, constantly pushing your faked True Pi=3.1446 proofs onto the FIGU Community which DIRECTLY contradicts Billy Meier's Contact Reports, which is precisely why you and Arthur NEVER mention Billy Meier's information about Pi, whereas all I do is reference Billy Meier's information about Pi, and make it perfectly clear how you are nothing but a LIAR no different than Christian Frehner and Michael Horn as documented here: https://hushdubwah.wixsite.com/figu-com ... challenges.

Moles write exactly like that, twisting evident facts to promote their actions.
The 3.1446 π value is not faked, as anyone basically skilled in Math can corroborate.
I never mention Billy Meier’s information about π because you do it and more than enough and not because I try to hide or ignore them, which I couldn’t anyway.
And you referencing it doesn’t make me a liar, as only a mole would claim, because I’m not lying, as the derivation of π does sufficiently show. You are continuously brazenfaced lying about its validity without presenting any evidence but just agitating against the evident.
Yes, you’re a mole.

[C.B.]

oh C.B.,

………... and make it perfectly clear how you are nothing but a LIAR no different than Christian Frehner and Michael Horn as documented here: https://hushdubwah.wixsite.com/figu-com ... challenges.

This link confirms once more you’re a mole, who just takes recurse to defamation and the ridiculing of his victims.
History is full of similar cases.
Why don’t you bring this material right here in this blog?
Simply because you lack the least rational argument to defend such a disgusting action.

[Hush]

oh my dear gullible and naive C.B.,

This forum purpose is to discuss the FIGU and its Mission while you never refer to Billy Meier's information what-so-ever. You my dear friends are selfishly pushing your True Pi=3.1446 nonsense onto the FIGU Community, failing to acknowledge in CR #722 Billy Meier states very CLEARLY, the TRUE Pi Value is UNKNOWN which means, pushing your True Pi=3.1446 LIE onto the FIGU Community is a complete, utter and total waste of time. You, Arthur and all you Pi-Radicals, including Christian Frehner, Michael Horn, Harry Lear, are the TRUE LIARS of the FIGU Community, who ignore Billy Meier's TRUTH as documented here: https://hushdubwah.wixsite.com/figu-co ... challenges

You, Arthur and all you Pi-Radicals, including Christian Frehner, Michael Horn, Harry Lear are the real moles, who persist in ignoring Billy Meier's clear and precise information about Pi in CRs #251, #712 & #722, and persist in misleading, misinforming, misdirecting, the FIGU Community with your Pi=3.1446 nonsense. And that fact that you are unable to credibly prove your Pi=3.1446 nonsense to academia, after 8-years of foolishly attempting to prove the impossible, with no success, its amazing where you find the energy, perhaps that's why you're a mole. Its your job to misinform, and discredit the FIGU and its Mission by ignoring Billy Meier's information about Pi and pushing your own agenda.

[C.B.]

oh my dear gullible and naive C.B.,
This forum purpose is to discuss the FIGU and its Mission while you never refer to Billy Meier's information what-so-ever.

Repeating yourself again and still lying.
The purpose of this forum as written at the top of the page:

Future Of Mankind Forum
A place to discuss all subjects

Need subtitles?

[Hush]

Hey there C.B.,

I stand corrected, James changed the forum intent in this new version and made it open to discuss any subject, my bad and stand corrected.

Doesn't change the fact that you continue to mislead, misdirect, and promote the LIE True Pi=3.1446 contrary to Billy Meier's Contact Report #722 in a Forum that does none-the-less include learning from and discussing Billy Meier's information including Billy Meier's information about Pi which you disrespectfully and vagrantly ignore.

Although its plainly clear in CR #722 Billy states True Pi is UNKNOWN, you persist is claiming you've solved the True and Correct Pi=3.1446 contradicting Billy Meier's information about Pi and contrary to what every scientist, mathematician and engineer in the world has known for centuries, that True Pi=3.1446 is a LIE, so either you are a mole or a the buffoon know-it-all, and the fact that you persist in spreading this nonsense in a FIGU Community, suggests you're only purpose is to disrupt the FIGU and its Mission to learn the TRUTH.

Also consider you've been unable to prove your fake Pi=3.1446 is credible to academia after 8-years of failure and still no sign of any success and its because you're too naive, uneducated and gullible to realize Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible and why P=3.1446 will never be credibly proven except by using your pretend math concepts.

Heck C.B. you can't even convince your Pi-Radical buddy Arthur, that your Pi=3.1446 nonsense is credible which is rather hilarious. What realistic chance do you have to convincing the world True Pi=3.1446 if you can't even agree with each other's Pi=3.1446 nonsense proofs.

But you and Arthur are just flies on the windshield, because your efforts to promote the True Pi=3.1446 LIE really don't matter, you're fighting a lost cause, no one credible will ever believe your PI=3.1446 LIE nonsense, so you, Arthur are quite harmless convincing anyone intelligent of your True Pi=3.1446 LIE, other than possibly convincing a few naive, gullible and uneducated people like yourselves of your foolish belief Pi=3.1446, but when Christian Frehner and Michael Horn also get involved spreading the Pi=3.1446 LIE, both trusted FIGU Spokespersons of the FIGU Community, and they spread the True Pi=3.1446 LIE, and sit idle and do nothing to correct their wrongdoings, well that's ultimate corruption within the FIGU as documented here: https://hushdubwah.wixsite.com/figu-com ... hallenges