Hi!
About the citing physical measurement of π, you should give the link as well. Otherwise it remains hearsay.
The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
oh C.B, my dear desperate Pi-Radical hopelessly trying to prove Pi=3.1446,
ALL Billy Meir's Contact Report English translations, including the excerpt you quoted from CR #260, are easily accessible from the FutureofMankind pubic website. You shouldn't have an issue because everyone/anyone can access this information so what's your problem?
Well if you were sincerely interested in showing respect and consideration of the Plejaren, simply use the name they are know by would be a simple common cutesy.
May be C.B. you have a hard time understanding the English language but in Contact Report #260 when Ptaah describes Guido's calculations and uses the word AMAZING, it does NOT validate True Pi=3.1446. "Amazing" is an expression of surprise from which nothing more may be inferred. If someone foolishly jumps off a cliff that could also be described as Amazing - amazingly stupid that is. Amazing doesn't imply anything is either true or false. Shouldn't take words out of context and try to infer some other meaning to fit your biased True Pi=3.1446 LIE nonsense.
CR #260 doesn't provide any credible information regarding the true value of Pi other than Ptaah clearly states its still much too early to discuss the true value of Pi at this time. However Billy Meier in 2019 brings up the True value of Pi most recently in Contact Report #722 where he states clearly TRUE VALUE of Pi is UNKNOWN therefore, logically, to claim the True and Correct PI=3.1446 is a LIE, and FABRICATION of the TRUTH proving you, Arthur, Christian Frehner, Michael Horn, Harry Lear and all other Pi-Radical morons pushing the True Pi=3.1446 hoax are perpetrating a FRAUD onto the FIGU Community when Billy Meier in 2019 makes its clear True Pi is UNKNOWN.
Do pray-tell C.B. who is your request for a physical Pi measurement 'reference' directed because you left that part out? This may be directed to Arthur, who claimed two German engineers physically measured Pi using lasers, and like you, omitted a credible reference. But C.B., as usually you're always writing incomplete thoughts and expressions, missing critical references, etc. so nobody knows to whom your questions is blindly addressed but don't hold your breath waiting for a response, because Harry Lear made it up, it a complete lie, as is everything that spews out of Harry Lear's mouth.
ALL Billy Meir's Contact Report English translations, including the excerpt you quoted from CR #260, are easily accessible from the FutureofMankind pubic website. You shouldn't have an issue because everyone/anyone can access this information so what's your problem?
Well if you were sincerely interested in showing respect and consideration of the Plejaren, simply use the name they are know by would be a simple common cutesy.
May be C.B. you have a hard time understanding the English language but in Contact Report #260 when Ptaah describes Guido's calculations and uses the word AMAZING, it does NOT validate True Pi=3.1446. "Amazing" is an expression of surprise from which nothing more may be inferred. If someone foolishly jumps off a cliff that could also be described as Amazing - amazingly stupid that is. Amazing doesn't imply anything is either true or false. Shouldn't take words out of context and try to infer some other meaning to fit your biased True Pi=3.1446 LIE nonsense.
CR #260 doesn't provide any credible information regarding the true value of Pi other than Ptaah clearly states its still much too early to discuss the true value of Pi at this time. However Billy Meier in 2019 brings up the True value of Pi most recently in Contact Report #722 where he states clearly TRUE VALUE of Pi is UNKNOWN therefore, logically, to claim the True and Correct PI=3.1446 is a LIE, and FABRICATION of the TRUTH proving you, Arthur, Christian Frehner, Michael Horn, Harry Lear and all other Pi-Radical morons pushing the True Pi=3.1446 hoax are perpetrating a FRAUD onto the FIGU Community when Billy Meier in 2019 makes its clear True Pi is UNKNOWN.
Do pray-tell C.B. who is your request for a physical Pi measurement 'reference' directed because you left that part out? This may be directed to Arthur, who claimed two German engineers physically measured Pi using lasers, and like you, omitted a credible reference. But C.B., as usually you're always writing incomplete thoughts and expressions, missing critical references, etc. so nobody knows to whom your questions is blindly addressed but don't hold your breath waiting for a response, because Harry Lear made it up, it a complete lie, as is everything that spews out of Harry Lear's mouth.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
*Amazing doesn't imply anything is either true or false. Shouldn't take words out of context and try to infer some other meaning to fit your biased True Pi=3.1446 LIE nonsense.*
English is not my first language but I understand enough to know that amazing doesn’t mean wrong
English is not my first language but I understand enough to know that amazing doesn’t mean wrong
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Did Billy Meier know about the debate on 3.1446?However Billy Meier in 2019 brings up the True value of Pi most recently in Contact Report #722 where he states clearly TRUE VALUE of Pi is UNKNOWN therefore, logically, to claim the True and Correct PI=3.1446 is a LIE, and FABRICATION of the TRUTH proving you, Arthur, Christian Frehner, Michael Horn, Harry Lear and all other Pi-Radical morons pushing the True Pi=3.1446 hoax are perpetrating a FRAUD onto the FIGU Community when Billy Meier in 2019 makes its clear True Pi is UNKNOWN.
If not then you’re the one, again, making fabrications.
No one of Meier’s statements refers to π 3.1446. It follows that every statement is made regarding 3.1415926. Basically being wrong
The only comment about 3.1446 is made by Ptaah with the term amazing. Which denotes, at least, stunning about the result.
You see…you keep twisting everything again and again until it comes out against you.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Well C.B.,
Amazing doesn't mean right either, so obviously NOTHING may be inferred from the word amazing other than Ptaah was surprised by Guido's calculation, which is what AMAZING, actually means. You know your observations, misinterpreting the word amazing, to somehow infer True PI=3.1446 is simply quite amazing.
You're follow-up post, as usual, makes absolutely no sense and doesn't warrant any response, just complete gibberish. You obviously struggle with logic and reason because Billy Meier's most recent Contact Report that addresses the correct value of Pi was in CR #722 in 2019, where Billy clearly states the True value of Pi is UNKNOWN. What is means is that anyone prior to 2019, who foolishly claimed the True and Correct Pi=3.1446 is perpetrating a HOAX onto the FIGU Community and that includes you, Arthur, Christian Frehner, Michael Horn, Harry Lear and remaining pile of Pi-Radical bozo's. Why are you such a dumbass CB. Seriously you need to go get your head examined, I'm worried about your mental health.
Amazing doesn't mean right either, so obviously NOTHING may be inferred from the word amazing other than Ptaah was surprised by Guido's calculation, which is what AMAZING, actually means. You know your observations, misinterpreting the word amazing, to somehow infer True PI=3.1446 is simply quite amazing.
You're follow-up post, as usual, makes absolutely no sense and doesn't warrant any response, just complete gibberish. You obviously struggle with logic and reason because Billy Meier's most recent Contact Report that addresses the correct value of Pi was in CR #722 in 2019, where Billy clearly states the True value of Pi is UNKNOWN. What is means is that anyone prior to 2019, who foolishly claimed the True and Correct Pi=3.1446 is perpetrating a HOAX onto the FIGU Community and that includes you, Arthur, Christian Frehner, Michael Horn, Harry Lear and remaining pile of Pi-Radical bozo's. Why are you such a dumbass CB. Seriously you need to go get your head examined, I'm worried about your mental health.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Amazing doesn't mean right either, so obviously NOTHING may be inferred from the word amazing other than Ptaah was surprised by Guido's calculation, which is what AMAZING, actually means. You know your observations, misinterpreting the word amazing, to somehow infer True PI=3.1446 is simply quite amazing.
Still not wrong.
I guess if Ptaah, having a suprerior intelligence, would have noticed that the value 3,1446 is wrong he would have just said: It is wrong.
But he didn’t.
What he clearly said about 3,1415926 is that, despite being useful is still wrong and that the correct value is unknown, which doesn’t exclude 3.1446 as a posible value. He didn’t exclude it explicitly. He found the result of π being a function of the Golden Mean just amazing.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Dear C.B.,
You truly struggle with the concept of basic logic and reason, and perhaps why you've also fallen into the True Pi=3.1446 LIE mind-trap. Its pretty obvious that in 1998 in CR #260 Ptaah never states anything conclusive about the true value of Pi a fact you need to understand and digest. You can speculate what Ptaah meant by his remarks, but point-of-fact nothing can be inferred from what he states. True Pi = 3.1446 is true or false, nobody knows from the context of CR #260, nothing is firmly stated either way and upon this point we should both agree.
However in 2018, in CR #712, Ptaah provides a concrete statement regarding the True Pi value by stating, very clearly, that the True Value of Pi remains unsolved by Earth humans.
This means when Christian Frehner claimed Harry Lear discovered the True Pi=3.1446 a year earlier, in 2017, he was lying because Ptaah states no one on Earth has solved for the True Pi value. Do you understand that if Ptaah states the True Pi value has not been discovered exactly on Earth in 2018, any prior claim by a Pi-Radical that True Pi=3.1446 is proof of a LIE, Fraud, and fabrication of the Truth. Do you understand the logic of how this works? You see any human being prior to 2018 who claimed the true and correct Pi=3.1446, well their claim is nullified when Ptaah states in 2018 that True Pi remains unsolved and unknown. This also proves anyone else who had or continues to claim True Pi = 3.1446, is also a Fraud and that includes you, Arthur, Harry Lear and every other Pi-Radical including Christian Frehner FIGU Core.
You see C.B., in CR #260 Ptaah doesn't actually address the True Value of Pi, he just expresses surprise by Guido's calculation, but 20-years later, in 2018, CR #712, Ptaah lets everyone know, including the Pi-Radical know-it-all's, that the True Value of Pi is UNKNOWN, just as Billy Meier also states in 2019, the following year in 2019.
I know you're extremely desperate to find any credible reference in Billy Meier's Contact Reports to support your True Pi=3.1446 HOAX and really that only leaves you with CR #260, and why you insist on mentioning it, but please understand C.B., CR #260 proves NOTHING about the true value of Pi.
CR #712, is where Ptaah CLEARLY states True Pi has not yet been calculated correctly, which means your Pi=3.1446 proof has NOT been calculated correctly, nor Arthur's Pi=3.1446 proof, nor Harry Lear's Pi=3.1446 proof; they're all bogus, lies, pretend math concepts. Honestly if you had any brains this should sink in by now but you are hopelessly brainwashed into believing your Pi=3.1446 LIE gibberish. NO ONE intelligent believes you C.B., no one intelligent will every believe your 1/2-page True Pi=3.1446 pretend math proof, and that's a simple fact. You're a pretend math expert, amateur mathematician with terrible math skills, nothing more, oh and stubborn as hell and too stupid to know proving your Pi=3.1446 LIE its a lost cause.
You truly struggle with the concept of basic logic and reason, and perhaps why you've also fallen into the True Pi=3.1446 LIE mind-trap. Its pretty obvious that in 1998 in CR #260 Ptaah never states anything conclusive about the true value of Pi a fact you need to understand and digest. You can speculate what Ptaah meant by his remarks, but point-of-fact nothing can be inferred from what he states. True Pi = 3.1446 is true or false, nobody knows from the context of CR #260, nothing is firmly stated either way and upon this point we should both agree.
However in 2018, in CR #712, Ptaah provides a concrete statement regarding the True Pi value by stating, very clearly, that the True Value of Pi remains unsolved by Earth humans.
This means when Christian Frehner claimed Harry Lear discovered the True Pi=3.1446 a year earlier, in 2017, he was lying because Ptaah states no one on Earth has solved for the True Pi value. Do you understand that if Ptaah states the True Pi value has not been discovered exactly on Earth in 2018, any prior claim by a Pi-Radical that True Pi=3.1446 is proof of a LIE, Fraud, and fabrication of the Truth. Do you understand the logic of how this works? You see any human being prior to 2018 who claimed the true and correct Pi=3.1446, well their claim is nullified when Ptaah states in 2018 that True Pi remains unsolved and unknown. This also proves anyone else who had or continues to claim True Pi = 3.1446, is also a Fraud and that includes you, Arthur, Harry Lear and every other Pi-Radical including Christian Frehner FIGU Core.
You see C.B., in CR #260 Ptaah doesn't actually address the True Value of Pi, he just expresses surprise by Guido's calculation, but 20-years later, in 2018, CR #712, Ptaah lets everyone know, including the Pi-Radical know-it-all's, that the True Value of Pi is UNKNOWN, just as Billy Meier also states in 2019, the following year in 2019.
I know you're extremely desperate to find any credible reference in Billy Meier's Contact Reports to support your True Pi=3.1446 HOAX and really that only leaves you with CR #260, and why you insist on mentioning it, but please understand C.B., CR #260 proves NOTHING about the true value of Pi.
CR #712, is where Ptaah CLEARLY states True Pi has not yet been calculated correctly, which means your Pi=3.1446 proof has NOT been calculated correctly, nor Arthur's Pi=3.1446 proof, nor Harry Lear's Pi=3.1446 proof; they're all bogus, lies, pretend math concepts. Honestly if you had any brains this should sink in by now but you are hopelessly brainwashed into believing your Pi=3.1446 LIE gibberish. NO ONE intelligent believes you C.B., no one intelligent will every believe your 1/2-page True Pi=3.1446 pretend math proof, and that's a simple fact. You're a pretend math expert, amateur mathematician with terrible math skills, nothing more, oh and stubborn as hell and too stupid to know proving your Pi=3.1446 LIE its a lost cause.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Dear C.B.,
You truly struggle with the concept of basic logic and reason, and perhaps why you've also fallen into the True Pi=3.1446 LIE mind-trap. Its pretty obvious that in 1998 in CR #260 Ptaah never states anything conclusive about the true value of Pi a fact you need to understand and digest. You can speculate what Ptaah meant by his remarks, but point-of-fact nothing can be inferred from what he states. True Pi = 3.1446 is true or false, nobody knows from the context of CR #260, nothing is firmly stated either way and upon this point we should both agree.
However in 2018, in CR #712, Ptaah provides a concrete statement regarding the True Pi value by stating, very clearly, that the True Value of Pi remains unsolved by Earth humans.
If Ptaah states the true value of Pi remains unknown and unsolved in 2018, CR #712 the following may be concluded:
I know you're extremely desperate to find any credible reference in Billy Meier's Contact Reports to support your True Pi=3.1446 HOAX and really that only leaves you with CR #260, and why you insist on mentioning it, but please understand C.B., CR #260 proves NOTHING about the true value of Pi.
CR #712, is where Ptaah CLEARLY states True Pi has not yet been calculated correctly, which means your Pi=3.1446 proof has NOT been calculated correctly, nor Arthur's Pi=3.1446 proof, nor Harry Lear's Pi=3.1446 proof; they're all bogus, lies, pretend math concepts. Honestly if you had any brains this should sink in by now but you are hopelessly brainwashed into believing your Pi=3.1446 LIE gibberish. NO ONE intelligent believes you C.B., no one intelligent will every believe your 1/2-page True Pi=3.1446 pretend math proof and that's a simple fact. Not even Arthur, your Pi-Radical buddy, believes your Pi=3.1446 proof based on the dialogue the two of you shared on this topic.
C.B. you're a pretend math expert, amateur mathematician with terrible math skills, nothing more, oh and stubborn as hell and too stupid to know proving your Pi=3.1446 LIE its a lost cause.
You truly struggle with the concept of basic logic and reason, and perhaps why you've also fallen into the True Pi=3.1446 LIE mind-trap. Its pretty obvious that in 1998 in CR #260 Ptaah never states anything conclusive about the true value of Pi a fact you need to understand and digest. You can speculate what Ptaah meant by his remarks, but point-of-fact nothing can be inferred from what he states. True Pi = 3.1446 is true or false, nobody knows from the context of CR #260, nothing is firmly stated either way and upon this point we should both agree.
However in 2018, in CR #712, Ptaah provides a concrete statement regarding the True Pi value by stating, very clearly, that the True Value of Pi remains unsolved by Earth humans.
If Ptaah states the true value of Pi remains unknown and unsolved in 2018, CR #712 the following may be concluded:
- In 1998, Contact Report #260, when Billy presented Guido's PI=3.1446 calculation to Ptaah for comment, it proves Guido's Pi=3.1446 value was incorrect back then because Ptaah clarifies 20-years later in 2018, CR #712, the True Pi value is UNKNOWN to Earth humans
- Proves Ptaah's response in Contact Report #260, was inconclusive regarding the true value of Pi as I have been stating - repeatedly
- In 2017, the previous year, Christian Frehner foolishly published an article in FIGU Sign of the Times #77 claiming Harry Lear discovered the True Pi=3.1446, however Ptaah's statement True Pi is UNKNOWN and UNSOLVED the following year in 2018, CR #712, proves Christian Frehner lied
I know you're extremely desperate to find any credible reference in Billy Meier's Contact Reports to support your True Pi=3.1446 HOAX and really that only leaves you with CR #260, and why you insist on mentioning it, but please understand C.B., CR #260 proves NOTHING about the true value of Pi.
CR #712, is where Ptaah CLEARLY states True Pi has not yet been calculated correctly, which means your Pi=3.1446 proof has NOT been calculated correctly, nor Arthur's Pi=3.1446 proof, nor Harry Lear's Pi=3.1446 proof; they're all bogus, lies, pretend math concepts. Honestly if you had any brains this should sink in by now but you are hopelessly brainwashed into believing your Pi=3.1446 LIE gibberish. NO ONE intelligent believes you C.B., no one intelligent will every believe your 1/2-page True Pi=3.1446 pretend math proof and that's a simple fact. Not even Arthur, your Pi-Radical buddy, believes your Pi=3.1446 proof based on the dialogue the two of you shared on this topic.
C.B. you're a pretend math expert, amateur mathematician with terrible math skills, nothing more, oh and stubborn as hell and too stupid to know proving your Pi=3.1446 LIE its a lost cause.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
First off. I do not need any Space Friends to corroborate that which is evident before my very eyes and no one was able to refute, the derivation 4b=π.
https://theyflyblog.com/wp-content/uplo ... rehner.pdf
In this link is the full text.
Ptaah talks about the dying Sun and the unknown π value. Meier shows him the work of Guido Moosbauer. Ptaah finds it “amazing” but it is too early “to be allowed” to go deeper into it. He doesn’r want to “violate directives” about disclosing more information about that value.
He didn’t say it is wrong. Why wouldn’t he say it if it were?
https://theyflyblog.com/wp-content/uplo ... rehner.pdf
In this link is the full text.
Ptaah talks about the dying Sun and the unknown π value. Meier shows him the work of Guido Moosbauer. Ptaah finds it “amazing” but it is too early “to be allowed” to go deeper into it. He doesn’r want to “violate directives” about disclosing more information about that value.
He didn’t say it is wrong. Why wouldn’t he say it if it were?
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Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Yes, if the value was not correct he would have said : "No this is not correct". In which case the main competitor of the current value would have been eliminated.C.B. wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 12:44 pm First off. I do not need any Space Friends to corroborate that which is evident before my very eyes and no one was able to refute, the derivation 4b=π.
https://theyflyblog.com/wp-content/uplo ... rehner.pdf
In this link is the full text.
Ptaah talks about the dying Sun and the unknown π value. Meier shows him the work of Guido Moosbauer. Ptaah finds it “amazing” but it is too early “to be allowed” to go deeper into it. He doesn’r want to “violate directives” about disclosing more information about that value.
He didn’t say it is wrong. Why wouldn’t he say it if it were?
Another thing that can be understood is that the current value is sacred. No one has the right to touch it. Insults, laughter, mockery, and even threats (I remember someone saying to another person on a math forum: “We know who you are”). It's a dogma, a kind of religion. So why would they give the value in this context? What's the point? Talking to deaf people? There is no questioning, no research. Nothing.
It's up to us to find the value, not to wait for the truth from one sky daddy.
They want us to find the value ourselves, to spread it, to reach the scientific community. Real science. Not controversy.
The measurements have been taken, now they need to be confirmed again and again with other measurements. Reproducibility.
It will take as long as it takes.
A 2019 post by Kenneth on the old FIGU forum:
Harry Lear sent his measurements and those of a research scientist to Elon Musk.But seems to fall in a black hole.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/16 ... #POST86248