The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle

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Well 777,

Interesting approach where Ai can now read screen captures and document the process calculations. A very original approach however at the end of it, the Ai doesn't actually agree Pi=3.1446 which is arguably the most important point. Thanks for sharing.

Say CB why don't you do what 777 did, take a screen capture of your 1/2-page pretend math faked Pi=3.1446 proof and see what Deep Seek concludes from your nonsense derivation. Then copy and paste the response here just like 777 did.
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yes I know, you've already shared that you've presented your 1/2-page pretend math derivation to Grok using enticing parlor tricks which you've misinterpreted its response to imply that it agrees with your Pi=3.1446 nonsense,


To misinterpret this assessment would be to assume that the derivation is wrong.
You can bite your teeth off on that but won’t change anything.

Grok: The math is correct—each step follows logically, with no algebraic or geometric errors in the derivation process itself.
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oh C.B.,

Well you have a talent for self-deception, as Grok states anyone who believes True Pi=3.1446 considers themselves an unrecognized genius and you must believe that you're smarter than every mathematician in the world for the last 2-centuries having been the only human being to develop a Pi=3.1446 derivation, which by the way, only you understand and believes, so as someone who actually believes they have such greatness, is it any wonder you would also be capable of further deception and using foolish parlor tricks in Grok and misinterpreted its response to believe it endorses your 1/2-page Pi=3.1446 nonsense.

Can you imagine CB if you had been born say 20-years earlier, you wouldn't have a public internet based Ai to converse with and would have had no choice but to take your 1/2-page pretend math Pi=3.1446 proof to an accredited mathematician for comment. oooh now that's a scary thought huh? So aren't you a lucky goose now able to converse with an Ai and present your 1/2-page pretend math Pi=3.1446 derivation using parlor trick from the comfort of your lazy boy rocker while eating donuts, and misinterpret its response fancy that.

Say try this, go back into Grok and again present your 1/2-page pretend math Pi=3.1446 parlor tricks, and then right after, as part of the continuing conversation on the same subject, and if, as you claim, Grok believes in your derivation of Pi=3.1446, and doesn't find anything wrong with it, then right after ask Grok why it thinks Pi=3.14159 and copy/paste the response in here. If you actually think you convinced Grok your Pi=3.1446 derivation is correct then wouldn't it be good to learn Grok's response because both your faked Pi=3.1446 derivation cannot be correct and also traditional Pi=3.14159. Can you follow this simple instruction CB to help resolve your foolish Pi=3.1446 claim or is the logic too complicated for your brainwashed mind to digest.
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Can you imagine CB if you had been born say 20-years earlier, you wouldn't have a public internet based Ai to converse with and would have had no choice but to take your 1/2-page pretend math Pi=3.1446 proof to an accredited mathematician for comment. oooh now that's a scary thought huh?
We don’t live 20 ys earlier, Jimmy. Get real.
I don’t need to visit any mathematician.
With Grok I have more than that.
Why don’t just copy paste the derivation by yourself and ask Grok about it and bring it here?
So we can see your parlor tricks trying to bias a result that has been already settled.
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Well CB,

Sorry I'm not interested in your Grok Parlor Tricks, however you're the pretend math expert so why not you go ahead and follow through on my suggestion to ask Grok how it could both find your PI=3.1446 derivation valid and also support traditional Pi=3.14159 - or are you too chicken, you know afraid the truth? You see CB, I'm only interested in the TRUTH not your pretend math faked Pi=3.1446 parlor tricks.
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C.B. wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:43 pm
"Two German engineers have recently measured the diameter and circumference of an Aluminum circle with their laser beam system in a clean room with constant humidity that can measure to the nearest 1/1000 mm. Their results: Pi = 3.1446... .

Could you give a link to see the method these engineers used and find out who they are?
This is a quote from Harry Lear in the comments of one of his video, i provided the link here ) This validate what he did. So the reproducibility. Other measurements must be made. For more details send him an email.
As for the troll, i've activated the “friends and foes” feature in my settings (User Control Panel), so i no longer see any of his nonsense. I just see his name but without the content. Don't feed the trolls, that's my motto.
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This is a quote from Harry Lear in the comments of one of his video, i provided the link here )
He gives no nearer information about those Germans.
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He explains what they did. They confirm his value and added 2 more decimal places, 0 and 5. (thousandth of a millimeter)
Concerning link, website more infos to their measurement maybe by contacting him he can give more infos. I don't know.
The fact is more measurements must be made. The reproducibility is the key, it validate the value.
And they don't say between this and that. Only the first digits of 4/√ɸ.
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The Measurement must be legally certified.
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After yes.
Reproducibility validates the value.
This value is then accepted and published as the correct value.
The accepted value for the speed of light is chosen from among three values. It is an average.

see
Resolution 10 of the 15th CGPM (1975) see p 68
Resolution 1 of the 17th CGPM (1983) see p 14

But there is difference because pi is a math constant, and speed of light or gravity are physical constant (who are less constant as pi).
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