I was finally able to come across a contact report I have been looking for for a while. CR704 has a section titled
Fragen und Antworten zur Nokodemion-Künderlinie
Questions and Answers about the Nokodemion Lineage
it will take a while to go through again, but it should shed some light on the topic.
Nokodemion lineage
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Re: Nokodemion lineage
Interpreting CR 915: Evolving Insights into the Nokodemion Lineage and Lehre-Nokodemion
Billy Meier writes in Contact Report 915:
“After Nokodemion’s human life and death, his creational-energy form and creational-life-energy form returned to the creational-energy level, from which a human being—a new personality—was then enlivened and ‘sent out.’ From that level, there has never been a rebirth of Nokodemion’s creational-energy form, nor of any creational-life-energy form, into a new incarnation.”
German original:
„Die Schöpfungsenergieform und Schöpfungslebensenergieform von Nokodemion nämlich transferierte nach seinem menschlichen Lehrewirken und Sterben resp. Tod zurück in die Schöpfungsenergieebene, aus der sie einen Menschen resp. eine neue Persönlichkeit belebend ‹ausgesandt› wurde. Von dieser Ebene her fand niemals wieder eine Wiedergeburt statt, wie auch niemals eine Wiedergeburt einer Schöpfungsenergieform sowie einer damit verbundenen Schöpfungslebensenergieform als Wiedergeburt in Erscheinung tritt.“
What This Means (Simplified):
The Geistform (spirit-form) of Nokodemion was not “reborn” in the conventional sense—like a soul looping back into a new body. Instead, it continued evolving, like a flowing sea—always growing, always changing, always moving forward.
Each Künder (Henoch, Isaiah, Elijah, etc.) was a new personality, not a reincarnation of Nokodemion, but animated by the same teaching impulse. The spirit-form itself was never reset or restarted—it simply progressed, and each new personality was a fresh vessel for the teaching.
Why “Rebirth” Is Misleading:
The German word „Wiedergeburt“ means “rebirth.” But Billy is clarifying that:
- There was no Wiedergeburt of Nokodemion’s spirit-form from the Creation-energy level.
- Instead, the spirit-form continued its creational path, evolving through new personalities.
- This is not reincarnation in the religious sense—it’s creational evolution, where the Geistform never repeats, but always advances.
A Helpful Analogy:
Think of the Nokodemion spirit-form like a river flowing into the sea:
- It never flows backward.
- It never returns to the same drop of water.
- But it continues, deepens, and expands—carrying the teaching forward through new forms.
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Why “Lehre-Nokodemion” Reflects a Unique Evolutionary Exception
The term Lehre-Nokodemion wasn’t chosen arbitrarily—it marks a special designation for a spirit-form that has followed an extraordinary, one-time exception path in its material evolution. Unlike other spirit-forms that evolve naturally through countless incarnations and eventually ascend to higher planes, Nokodemion’s spirit-form:
- Originated over 9.6 billion years ago
- Evolved through material lives, then entered the High Council, then entered Arahat Athersata
- Then, in a deliberate and mission-bound act, returned to the material realm about 1.3 billion years ago
- Will continue incarnating until the year 3999, when it will finally return to Arahat Athersata
This return is not part of a standard evolutionary cycle—it’s a creational exception.
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Why It’s Not “Natural Evolution”
This path bypasses the usual laws of spiritual progression. Normally, a spirit-form ascends through the High Council and Arahat Athersata and does not return to the material realm. But Nokodemion’s spirit-form did return—not through reincarnation from the Creation-energy level, but through a conscious descent for a creational mission.
This is where Geistenergieimpulswanderung comes in:
🗣 German:
Ein impulsmässiger Übertragungsprozess zwischen Geistformen und höheren Ebenen, durch den die Lehre weitergegeben und harmonisiert wird.
English:
An impulse-based transmission process between spirit-forms and higher levels, through which the teaching is passed on and harmonized.
This process allowed Nokodemion’s spirit-form to maintain energetic contact with higher planes and transmit the teaching impulse across time and personalities—even while incarnated.
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Why “Lehre-Nokodemion” Matters
The term Lehre-Nokodemion reflects that this spirit-form is no longer just Nokodemion in name—it has become the embodiment of the teaching itself. It’s not just evolving—it’s carrying out a creational mandate, bypassing normal evolutionary law to fulfill a universal mission.
After 3999, the spirit-form will permanently return to Arahat Athersata, completing its mission and resuming its natural creational evolution.
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Summary:
- Lehre-Nokodemion = the matured, mission-bearing identity of the Nokodemion spirit-form
- Geistenergieimpulswanderung = the transmission mechanism that harmonizes the teaching across realms
- The spirit-form’s path is a one-time creational exception, not a natural incarnational cycle
- It bypasses standard laws of evolution to fulfill its mission, ending in 3999 with its return to Arahat Athersata
Conclusion:
So yes, the spirit-form of Nokodemion did return, but not as a rebirth. It’s the same evolving creational-energy form, expressing itself through new personalities—each one part of the Lehre Nokodemion, the unbroken teaching lineage. The clarification in CR 915 doesn’t deny the return—it simply emphasizes that the spirit-form is always evolving, never repeating, and never reborn in the religious sense. It’s a living current of Creation, flowing forward through time.
Billy Meier writes in Contact Report 915:
“After Nokodemion’s human life and death, his creational-energy form and creational-life-energy form returned to the creational-energy level, from which a human being—a new personality—was then enlivened and ‘sent out.’ From that level, there has never been a rebirth of Nokodemion’s creational-energy form, nor of any creational-life-energy form, into a new incarnation.”
German original:
„Die Schöpfungsenergieform und Schöpfungslebensenergieform von Nokodemion nämlich transferierte nach seinem menschlichen Lehrewirken und Sterben resp. Tod zurück in die Schöpfungsenergieebene, aus der sie einen Menschen resp. eine neue Persönlichkeit belebend ‹ausgesandt› wurde. Von dieser Ebene her fand niemals wieder eine Wiedergeburt statt, wie auch niemals eine Wiedergeburt einer Schöpfungsenergieform sowie einer damit verbundenen Schöpfungslebensenergieform als Wiedergeburt in Erscheinung tritt.“
What This Means (Simplified): The Geistform (spirit-form) of Nokodemion was not “reborn” in the conventional sense—like a soul looping back into a new body. Instead, it continued evolving, like a flowing sea—always growing, always changing, always moving forward.
Each Künder (Henoch, Isaiah, Elijah, etc.) was a new personality, not a reincarnation of Nokodemion, but animated by the same teaching impulse. The spirit-form itself was never reset or restarted—it simply progressed, and each new personality was a fresh vessel for the teaching.
Why “Rebirth” Is Misleading: The German word „Wiedergeburt“ means “rebirth.” But Billy is clarifying that:
- There was no Wiedergeburt of Nokodemion’s spirit-form from the Creation-energy level.
- Instead, the spirit-form continued its creational path, evolving through new personalities.
- This is not reincarnation in the religious sense—it’s creational evolution, where the Geistform never repeats, but always advances.
A Helpful Analogy: Think of the Nokodemion spirit-form like a river flowing into the sea:
- It never flows backward.
- It never returns to the same drop of water.
- But it continues, deepens, and expands—carrying the teaching forward through new forms.
---
Why “Lehre-Nokodemion” Reflects a Unique Evolutionary Exception
The term Lehre-Nokodemion wasn’t chosen arbitrarily—it marks a special designation for a spirit-form that has followed an extraordinary, one-time exception path in its material evolution. Unlike other spirit-forms that evolve naturally through countless incarnations and eventually ascend to higher planes, Nokodemion’s spirit-form:
- Originated over 9.6 billion years ago
- Evolved through material lives, then entered the High Council, then entered Arahat Athersata
- Then, in a deliberate and mission-bound act, returned to the material realm about 1.3 billion years ago
- Will continue incarnating until the year 3999, when it will finally return to Arahat Athersata
This return is not part of a standard evolutionary cycle—it’s a creational exception.
---
Why It’s Not “Natural Evolution”
This path bypasses the usual laws of spiritual progression. Normally, a spirit-form ascends through the High Council and Arahat Athersata and does not return to the material realm. But Nokodemion’s spirit-form did return—not through reincarnation from the Creation-energy level, but through a conscious descent for a creational mission.
This is where Geistenergieimpulswanderung comes in:
🗣 German:
Ein impulsmässiger Übertragungsprozess zwischen Geistformen und höheren Ebenen, durch den die Lehre weitergegeben und harmonisiert wird.
English:
An impulse-based transmission process between spirit-forms and higher levels, through which the teaching is passed on and harmonized.
This process allowed Nokodemion’s spirit-form to maintain energetic contact with higher planes and transmit the teaching impulse across time and personalities—even while incarnated.
---
Why “Lehre-Nokodemion” Matters
The term Lehre-Nokodemion reflects that this spirit-form is no longer just Nokodemion in name—it has become the embodiment of the teaching itself. It’s not just evolving—it’s carrying out a creational mandate, bypassing normal evolutionary law to fulfill a universal mission.
After 3999, the spirit-form will permanently return to Arahat Athersata, completing its mission and resuming its natural creational evolution.
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Summary:
- Lehre-Nokodemion = the matured, mission-bearing identity of the Nokodemion spirit-form
- Geistenergieimpulswanderung = the transmission mechanism that harmonizes the teaching across realms
- The spirit-form’s path is a one-time creational exception, not a natural incarnational cycle
- It bypasses standard laws of evolution to fulfill its mission, ending in 3999 with its return to Arahat Athersata
Conclusion:
So yes, the spirit-form of Nokodemion did return, but not as a rebirth. It’s the same evolving creational-energy form, expressing itself through new personalities—each one part of the Lehre Nokodemion, the unbroken teaching lineage. The clarification in CR 915 doesn’t deny the return—it simply emphasizes that the spirit-form is always evolving, never repeating, and never reborn in the religious sense. It’s a living current of Creation, flowing forward through time.
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Re: Nokodemion lineage
Thanks for the links, Arthur—I’ll check them out later. I just wish my German was strong enough to read Bernadette Brand’s Nokodemion book as well. Hopefully in the future I will get to it.
Re: Nokodemion lineage
Video : Nokodemion Presentation by Catherine Mossman.
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Reincarnation process : https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/D ... ss-sec.pdf
Reincarnation Q&A with Billy : https://theyfly.com/sites/default/files ... 202017.pdf
Reincarnation Q&A with Billy : https://theyfly.com/sites/default/files ... 202017.pdf