Daniel, I moved your questions from the Beginning Meditation video on the Billy Meier Books YouTube channel to here:

Hi Mike. I have been meditating every morning for 2 weeks now between 30 minutes and a little over 1 hour. And I wanted to ask you a few questions to see if I'm doing it right or if I got it right.

  1. Should the breathing always be kept in the same rhythm? Because the body relaxes in meditation, the breathing rhythm also decreases. This causes the body at some point to need a breath (sigh) or may cause us to fall asleep. So, should we maintain a normal breathing but without slowing down, or is it not necessary?

  2. Does meditating with open eyes work, and does it have the same effect?

  3. Should mindfulness of breathing always be used throughout the day as a type of open-eyed meditation or only for brief moments when required? I think it would help to maintain more neutral-positive thinking.

  4. When I meditate sitting, my body posture relaxes and slouches my upper back in the neck part, even when I rest my back on the back of the seat. It causes discomfort in the back of my neck and upper back, as my neck goes forward and my upper back slouches and puts pressure on that area. I tried meditating lying down and obviously I don't have that problem and I don't fall asleep. But, from what I understand, it is better to meditate sitting. When meditating sitting, does it require a firm posture so that the back does not slouch or should it be relaxed, any recommendations to correct that problem?

  5. I understand that the purpose of meditation is to contact the true inner self. Does that mean that when you manage to clear your mind of thoughts and they do not come, for example, in 40, 60 or more minutes, that moment when you achieve that silence, stillness, tranquility, peace, etc., am I connected with my inner self, or is it something more than that?

A hug. Salome.
Daniel

Hi Daniel,

Thank you for your questions about Meditation.

  1. No, you should not regulate your breathing during meditation. If you are regulating your breathing then your attention is not on the breath flowing in and out of your nostrils. Your attention is on regulating your breath. Falling asleep is a very common problem in the beginning. It’s from a lack of attentiveness and discipline which needs to be learned and built up over time. One thing you could do is to have your meditation first thing in the morning after you wake up. This way the body is well rested and is not so prone to falling asleep.

  2. Yes, meditating with your eyes open is fine, but that is a very advanced technique. The problem with eyes open is it’s easier for your thoughts to wander. For beginners, it’s always best to learn meditation with your eyes closed.

  3. Yes, absolutely! You can bring your attention to your breath at any time during the day. You will find it is very helpful. You can do this with your eyes open, when in public, and also with eyes closed for a short time. I also do this throughout the day.

  4. Yes, sitting is the best posture for meditation. However, it’s far more important to meditate regularly than to worry about your posture. Use whichever posture works best for you personally. Meditation is not only about the taming of the mind but also the taming of the body. Our bodies are not accustomed to sitting quietly and like to rebel by causing pain or uncomfortableness or an itch or many other things. The taming of the body also takes place over time simultaneously with the taming of the mind. Select a meditation posture that is best for you and then push through all of the physical challenges of the body.

  5. No, when you achieve “no thoughts at all” for an extended period of time, this is the beginning of meditative immersion.

Salome,
Mike

    Hello
    Is this correct?
    According to IA " One of the goals of meditation is to connect with your inner self, which is also called the spirit or the consciousness. The inner self is the source of all wisdom, knowledge, love, peace and harmony. It is also eternal and immortal, unlike the physical body and the psyche. The inner self is not affected by thoughts, feelings, emotions or impulses, but rather observes them with neutrality and logic."
    I think there are several errors. Inner and innermost are different things

    Salome

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    Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for replying.
    In question 1 I meant that:
    Yes, I understand that you have to keep your attention only on the breath. Rather, on the air going in and out of the nostrils. However, when one's attention is on the air going in and out of the nostrils, that makes one relax and, at least in my case, that makes my breathing very slow and inhaling very little oxygen. When I exhale, it takes 3 to 5 seconds before I inhale again, and inhaling little oxygen. That makes the body at some point need oxygen and makes a "sigh".
    Is that normal in meditation when the attention is on the breath going in and out of the nostrils? Or is a more balanced breathing rhythm needed, not too slow, not too fast?

    In question 3 I meant:
    Should one do, or would you recommend keeping attention on the air going in and out of the nostrils all day long... (24 hours or as much as possible).
    I think that would help to maintain positive neutral thinking. But on the other hand, it is very difficult and even dangerous. Because you need to be thinking and be focused on the daily chores. However, I think it should be done whenever you can, adding several hours during the day.

    Best regards and Salome.
    Daniel

        Hello 8877. Thanks for that information. Amazing what AI can do. I was surprised.
        The answers the AI gives are very good. And also, they allow to go knowing more information about the content of Billy's book Introduction to Meditation.

        "One of the instructions is to sit upright on a chair or a cushion, with the spine straight but not rigid, the shoulders relaxed but not slouched, the head slightly tilted forward but not drooping, and the chin slightly tucked in. The eyes should be closed or half-closed, looking slightly downward. The hands should rest on the thighs or in the lap, with the palms facing up or down. The feet should be flat on the floor or crossed on a cushion, depending on the posture chosen."

        The part about: "the head slightly tilted forward but not drooping, and the chin slightly tucked in", served me well. I did it, and it no longer causes me pain or discomfort. It also helps and improves my back posture quite a bit. With time and meditative practice, it should improve even more.

        If the AI could translate the information in Billy's books with the right words, it would be very helpful to FIGU in translating Billy's German books. It would make the process much faster and in several languages. But I understand that in the German language, there are words that have no meaning, so Billy's approval is needed in this case to select the most accurate word, so that the information is not misunderstood and mistranslated.

        Thanks for the information 8877
        Best regards
        Salome
        Daniel

          Daniel
          Hi Daniel,

          Question 1 – It’s very difficult for me to know exactly what is going on with you. I can only give you suggestions from my own experience and other student’s experience. Below are some points to think over and consider:

          • No, you should not try to adjust or control your breathing. Just simply observe your breathing.
          • Yes, relaxation is a benefit of observing your breath. The relaxation you are feeling is a natural and normal process.
          • I’ll take a guess with this suggestion: If you are aware that your inhale is taking 3 -5 seconds then your attention is not on your breath. Your attention is counting the seconds between inhales, or worrying about breathing, or worrying about “sighs” or something else similar.

          Question 3 – “Should one do, or would you recommend keeping attention on the air going in and out of the nostrils all day long... (24 hours or as much as possible).”

          No. First of all that’s not possible. Our mind is so busy and distracted that during the day it would be impossible to maintain your attention on your breath. During a normal day, breathing attentiveness is used to calm down or “bring yourself back to you” or rebalance everything momentarily.

          Secondly, if you went around all day with your attention on your breath, you would miss the majority of experience and interactions of life in general. You would miss the highs and lows of everyday life. You would miss the swinging waves and thoughts and feelings of other humans.

          Keep your practice of meditation at the same time every day and practice it alone while you are at home. Maintain separate times for meditation and separate times for normal life. At least at our current level of evolution, we are not ready to bring a meditative concentration into normal life. This is possible, but it’s a long way away for most of us.

          Salome,
          Mike

              Mike Whelan Hi Mike. Thanks for answering.
              Question 1:
              I think there is a problem with the translator, as it did not understand me correctly what I asked.
              I will follow your suggestions and those of the AI.

              Question 3:
              Yes, I agree. That's what I thought and what I commented in the previous post.

              Thank you Mike. I will continue meditating applying your suggestions and I will tell you and consult you if I have any questions.
              A big hug. Salome.
              Daniel

                15 days later

                Mike Whelan Hi Mike.
                Already after a month of constant daily meditation, I think I've improved quite a bit.
                When I am with attention on the breath, after 2 or 3 inhalations I enter a different state.
                I feel a change of vibration or frequency in my brain.
                I feel as if my brain is anesthetized, it feels like a stronger concentration, a pressure, or vibration, or a different energy, which makes thoughts or images no longer come to distract.
                My breathing regularizes in a perfect way, like automatic. I think it's the subconscious at work. My body does not move, it stays very still.
                When I am in that state, I put my attention in the area of the pineal gland and I feel a "pressure", like an energy or force in that area. And at the same time I almost constantly feel a sensation, or "pressure" in the area between the eyebrows and forehead.
                Other than that, and feeling focused, relaxed and as if in a "blank mind" state, I have not felt or perceived anything else so far.
                This had happened to me many times before when I started meditating, without knowing much and without knowing the techniques of attention on the breath meditation. I even did it with my eyes open (without knowing it, and without intention) and I felt the same as I mentioned.
                Is that normal, is that okay? Has it happened to you or anyone you know?

                Salome.
                Daniel

                    Hello

                    Great thread on the fabric of time and space!

                    Here is all day mediation explained in CR 754 by Billy.
                    Salome,

                    David

                      Daniel
                      Hi Daniel,

                      We have discussed before about concentrating your attention on your breath during meditation, so there is probably no need to go over this again.

                      If your attention is on your pineal gland area, then your attention is not on your breath.

                      If your attention is feeling a pressure, then your attention is not on your breath.

                      If your attention is feeling an energy force in that area, then your attention is not on your breath.

                      If your attention is on a sensation between your eyebrows, then your attention is not on your breath.

                      If your attention is on a sensation between your forehead, then your attention is not on your breath.

                      If your attention is not on your breath, then you are not meditating, you are thinking.

                      Salome,
                      Mike

                        DA5ID-CT Very good and interesting information. It clarified a little more some things I was doing, or trying to do from a while ago until now.
                        Thanks for sharing the information David!
                        Salome.
                        Daniel

                          16 days later

                          Billy
                          Hi Billy,

                          Welcome to the Future of Mankind forum. I’m also relatively new to the forum.

                          Certainly, you can post text about meditation to this forum thread. Your thoughts and experience on meditation would also be welcome if you care to write about them. 😊

                          All the best,
                          Mike

                            a month later

                            Billy

                            Does anyone know if meditation is connected to the method of moving large stones in Egypt and elsewhere , where vibrational sound waves, so to speak, were used ?

                                Geo The control of the devices that moved this large stones would have been by thought.