I do like a good fairy-tale and every now-and-then, thank you, however if you want to learn the truth, please read the information I've provided which explains why every scientist, engineer and mathematician in the world for last 2000 years knows conventional Pi=3.14159 is the closest and best estimate of true Pi, as also confirmed by Ptaah in Contact Report 712 unless you think you are 'smarter' than Ptaah!

You've shared a lot of information on numerous subject matter however the subject matter focus is on the correct Pi value.

What I have presented is factual information extracted directly from Contact Reports 712 and 722 and when this information is taken in context and truly understood, the message quite clearly states Earth technology is far too primitive to determine the correct value of Pi and although its true value remains unknown (Billy CR 722) the best estimate of true Pi is actually traditional Pi=3.14159 (Ptaah CR 712). It can't be more plainly stated nor be more clear!

If one is unable to comprehend the message stated in CRs 712 & 722 regarding Pi, then nothing further can be gained. Obviously someone with a strong belief is no longer curious to learn the truth as presented in the Contact Reports. I've shared credible information extracted directly from the Contact Reports on the subject of Pi whereas you claim the Plejaren agreed the true and correct Pi=3.1446 without including a credible Contact Report references that would corroborate your information and therefore, what you have presented is conjecture stemming from one's opinion.

Christian wrote an article endorsing Harry's claim Pi=3.1446, but his article directly contradicts the information in Contact Reports 712 & 722 as Billy Meier himself states in CR 722 the true and correct value of Pi cannot be determined. So how is it possible Christian claims the true and correct Pi=3.1446 while Billy states Earth technology is too primitive to determine the correct Pi number? Logically these two statements cannot coexist and both be correct so either Christian or Billy is telling a lie. Who do you trust more?

Only Billy's writings may be trusted as factual and accurate information as no one else on our planet, not even Christian, has the authority given by the Plejaren to share new information with Earthlings. Therefore you will never find a single article or sentence written by Billy or the Plejaren endorsing Pi=3.1446 because Pi=3.1446 is a fraud, lie and a scam. In fact, the true and correct value of Pi is so complicated it is well beyond Earth scientific knowledge and understanding of the concept. Only information written by Billy in the Contact Reports or in any of Billy's other writings may be trusted as accurate and correct but if you prefer to believe Christian over Billy, that's your prerogative

Contact Report 251 clarifies when the error in Pi will be solved and by whom. The error in Pi will be solved by Earth's future brilliant scientists at a time when our weakening Sun's nuclear fusions bring enormous changes to the Sol-system. As there are no imminent threats from the Sun capable of causing enormous changes to our Sol-system, Billy is referring to a distant future, centuries from now, when the error in Pi will be solved. This should be obvious and couldn't be more plainly stated.

Therefore only when the gravitational field becomes out of control, at that time, Earth's scientists perform at their best, and solve the miscalculation underlying the pi number. CR 251 clearly states the error in the Pi number will only be solved 'AFTER' our weakening Sun's nuclear fusions bring enormous changes to the Sol-system.

Billy's information is perfectly clear nor can it be more plainly stated that the true and correct Pi cannot possibly be solved before this time. Therefore when one accepts the information in CR 251, as written by Billy, and deemed correct and accurate, then to claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446 has been solved NOW, directly contradicts the information in CR 251.

Billy's Contact Report information about Pi (CR 251, 712, 722), reinforces what Earth scientists have known about Pi for the last 2000 years; that conventional Pi=3.1419 is currently the best estimate of true Pi. Anyone who continues to claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446 not only opposes the worldwide academic community, who know Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible, but also is directly contradicting information provided by Billy about Pi in the Contact Reports.

In Contact Report 712 'Ptaah' states an 'instrumentarium' is required, which has not yet been invented, in order to calculate the true and correct Pi value therefore neither at present nor for the time being will anyone on 'Earth' be able to determine the true and correct value Pi .

Ptaah clarifies neither the scientific-mathematical experts nor the group he refers to as "KNOW-IT-ALLS" will be able to solve for the true-and-correct value of Pi at present nor for the time-being. Isn't it interesting Ptaah specifically thought to mention "KNOW-IT-ALLS", when identifying the group who will be unable to solve the true and correct value of Pi. The Know-It-Alls are those who are not scientific-mathematical experts - but think they are.

This is a duplicate post copied-n-pasted from above and offers no new insight. The information in the Contact Reports 251, 712, & 722, if read and understood, clearly state the true and correct Pi cannot be determined by Earthly humankind at this time therefore to claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446 has indeed now been determined, reflects the opinion of someone who prefers to ignore the factually correct and accurate information about Pi provided by Billy in the Contact Reports.

In Contact Report 260, Billy presents Guido's Pi calculation however the Plejaren DO NOT confirm Guido's Pi number is the true and correct value. Billy, is somewhat disappointed by Ptaah's response, as it appears Guido has done some amazing calculations, but Billy also anticipated the Plejaren would be unable to comment on the accuracy of Guido's Pi calculation.

In Contact Report 712, Ptaah states the true and correct Pi mathematical constant has not yet been calculated precisely on Earth.

The information shared by Ptaah CR 712 actually confirms Pi=3.1446 is the WRONG number. The logic is as follows:

• The only one's of Earth origin who claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446 are Know-it-Alls (Ptaah CR 712)
• However the true and correct Pi value has not been determined on Earth (Ptaah CR 712)
• If Earthly Know-it-Alls had calculated the true and correct Pi=3.1446, Ptaah would have to acknowledge the true and correct value Pi has been determined on Earth however Ptaah states the true-and-correct Pi value remains unknown on Earth
• Know-It-Alls of Earthly origin who claim to have solved the true-and-correct Pi=3.1446 have therefore been unsuccessful since Ptaah states the true-and-correct Pi has NOT 'yet' been precisely calculated on Earth
• Since the true-and-correct Pi number has not yet been calculated on Earth, logically then Pi=3.1446 is the WRONG Pi value

Conventional mathematics easily proves Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible but Know-It-Alls refuse to learn Math to verify this basic provable concept, however one does not need to be a math expert to understand Pi=3.1446 is the WRONG value. All anyone needs to do is read the Contact Reports, trust and understand the information presented by Billy, to learn the truth about Pi.

Dear Arthur,

Right so I guess its perfectly fine to support the nonsense Pi=3.1446 but as soon as someone tries to share the truth its unworthy and misinformation.

The best way to determine the true and correct value for Pi is to review the information about Pi in the Contact Reports which is what I have provided at length. Therefore if one trusts the information in the Contact Reports my information is credible whereas yours is not because you have NO Contact Report references to support the opinion Pi=3.1446. To support the opinion Pi=3.1446 actually requires one to ignore, disregard, and trivialize, the information in the Contact Reports about Pi.

You prefer to not 'banter' because it would be foolhardy to contradict the information I've quoted directly from the Contact Reports.

You have ZERO credible information supporting your claim Pi=3.1446, nor do you have any corroborating information from Billy or the Plejaren, supporting the claim Pi=3.1446. I had grown weary of watching lies being spread within the FIGU Community claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446 which is complete nonsense. The FIGU Community is all about spreading the truth after-all and imagine you may consider sharing the truth a worthy cause and the Contact Reports provide an invaluable wealth of truthful knowledge which you seem to be ignoring for some reason?

Harry, simply measured the circumference of a wood disk equal to 3.144 m, claimed to have solved the true and correct Pi and many who are naive and gullible, believed the Pied Piper's claim-to-fame. Isn't it interesting Savio; long-time FIGU Community member, also physically measured the circumference of a metal disk with Pi=3.141 however no one ever talks about Savio's incredible success measuring traditional Pi=3.14159 because his achievement fails to support the one-sided opinionated gewalt narrative Pi=3.144 you and others have been actively 'pushing' onto the FIGU Community.

I've only presented credible information from Billy and the Plejaren, extracted directly from the Contact Reports, which provides irrefutable content the true and correct Pi has not yet been determined and traditional Pi=3.14159 remains the best estimate of true Pi. Conventional mathematics also proves Pi=3.14159 is the best estimate of true Pi and Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible. So there you have it, both the Contact Reports and traditional mathematics corroborate making it perfectly clear Pi=3.1446 is wrong.

How or why you or anyone else would continue to promote this false narrative Pi=3.1446 is beyond comprehension when considering such overwhelming evidence in the Contact Reports and conventional mathematics which proves the best estimate of true Pi=3.14159.

More and more folks are waking up and realizing the claim Pi=3.1446 is a lie, hoax, scam and a fraud. Someday Arthur, you will realize you were on the wrong side of history. Even now very very few folks and fewer everyday, believe the nonsense Pi=3.1446. This is because anyone who reads the Contact Reports relevant sections about Pi, will understand Billy's and Ptaah's clear and simple explanation true and correct Pi remains unknown, and so why would anyone continue to waste the FIGU Community's time 'pushing' this ongoing nonsense claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446 has been determined when the Contact Reports make it so obvious this is untrue? Defies all reason, logic and sensibility.

Guido's proposed value for Pi=3.1446 was never confirmed by the Plejaren therefore Pi=3.1446 is unverified, unconfirmed and an assumed value, nothing more. In Contract Report 712, Ptaah clarifies the true and correct value for Pi remains unknown. If Guido's Pi=3.1446 was the true and correct value, Ptaah could not deny Guido's amazing calculation, but sadly, Ptaah, aware of Guido Pi=3.1446 calculation, states the true and correct Pi remains unknown effectively proving Guido's Pi=3.1446, is NOT the true and correct value for Pi.

Ptaah, in CR 712, provides a significant-clue regarding the true and correct value for Pi. Ptaah not only clarifies the true and correct Pi value remains unknown, he states the "circle number pi", in reference to traditional Pi=3.14159, is valid for all round and circular formula and calculations, as well as for other areas of mathematics and physics. This is because traditional Pi=3.14159 is extremely close and nearly perfect to the true and correct Pi. Ptaah states that the error in Pi is "minimal-minor" meaning the error in traditional Pi is so incredibly small, Ptaah advises that traditional Pi=3.14159 may be used for all circular formulae and calculations in both math and physics.

Harry Lear claims to have found the true and correct Pi=3.1446 but has yet to provide any valid proof. Harry physically measured a round wooden disk equal to 3.144 m from which he concluded the true and correct Pi=3.1446 but long-time FIGU Community member Savio also physically measured the circumference of a round metal disk equal to 3.141 m or traditional Pi=3.14159, verifying that Harry's physical measurement of Pi=3.144 proved nothing.

Conventional mathematics easily proves Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible and why a mathematical proof Pi=3.1446 does not exist nor will one ever be found. This may be why Harry resorted to a 'geometric' math proof, or a colored drawing, in an attempt to prove the impossible Pi=3.1446 and faked the results.

So Harry has yet to provide a valid proof the true and correct Pi=3.1446 not withstanding Ptaah's statement the true and correct Pi value remains unknown. Further, Harry has made some rather outlandish claims regarding Billy and the Plejaren in his letter to then, president Donald Trump.

In one excerpt Harry claims Billy and the Plejaren advise Earthlings need to discover the true value of Pi to prevent the Apophis-Earth crash. Seems Harry is the only one with this privileged knowledge because its not published in any Contact Reports. In fact quite the contrary where in CR 712 Ptaah advises Billy to stop fretting about the true and correct Pi value. If Ptaah advises Billy not to worry about the correct Pi value, obviously finding the correct Pi value has nothing to do with preventing an Apophis-Earth impact.

Harry also claims Christian Frehner told him the Plejaren were amazed by his Pi=3.1446 calculations and confirmed it was absolutely correct. According to Harry, Billy Meier reported the Plejaren reacted with 'astonishment and excitement' upon learning of his math calculations and proof Pi=3.1446 (which is particularly remarkable since Pi=3.1446 still remains unproven).

The Contact Reports list several references where both Billy and Ptaah clarify the true and correct Pi remains unknown. The logic for Harry's second statement to be true requires the Plejaren to have 'privately' and 'exclusively' conveyed to Christian, perhaps through Billy, that Harry's true and correct Pi=3.1446 was absolutely correct. Then Christian privately informs Harry the good news that the Plejaren confirmed his Pi=3.1446 was absolutely the correct value and the whole thing is kept 'secret' from the FIGU Community because its never been published or revealed in any of the Contact Reports; only Harry and Christian seem privy to this exclusive knowledge that the Plejaren confirmed the true and correct Pi=3.1446.

However if Earthly Know-It-Alls, had computed the true and correct Pi=3.1446 then the Plejaren are lying stating the true and correct Pi is unknown to Earthly humans. Or isn't more likely Harry made a duplicitous, false claim the Plejaren confirmed his true and correct Pi=3.1446, and the real honest truth, is that we can trust the Plejaren, and Billy's Contact Report statements that the correct Pi is unknown to Earthlings.

Another of Harry's claims is that Billy and the Plejaren are using Pi=3.1446. Oh really! (lol) So this third claim by Harry essentially states the Plejaren are 'two-faced' because while they are secretly using Harry's Pi=3.1446 they report in the Contact Reports that the true and correct Pi remains unknown to Earthly humans.

In Contact Report 712 Ptaah clearly states traditional Pi=3.14159 is the best estimate of true Pi and no where in the Contact Reports has it ever been confirmed the true and correct Pi=3.1446. I truly doubt Billy is using Pi=3.1446 as Harry claims, but if anyone knows Billy may be someone could confirm this.

Its amazing what one can accomplish with a vivid imagination. This boils down to what do you trust more, the information in the Contact Reports or Harry Lear's claims and the influential Know-It-Alls within the FIGU Community who back him up?

There exists a very strange phenomena within the FIGU Community of Know-It-Alls (Ptaah's words) who persist in claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446 has been solved which directly contradicts information about Pi in the Contact Reports.

These folks defy logic and reason, by promoting the true and correct Pi=3.1446 has been solved, in spite of the fact that both Billy and Ptaah clearly state the true and correct Pi remains unknown to Earth humans.

In addition the Contact Reports state an instrumentarium is required to solve for the true and correct Pi which has not yet been invented.

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Anyone who has read the Contact Reports knows Billy has advanced knowledge and wisdom in areas of mathematics, science, physics, astronomy, and about the future and past, none of which has ever been discredited. If one respects the authenticity of the information Billy has shared through his Contact Reports about Pi, where it clearly states the true and correct Pi remains unknown, yet the Know-It-All's, within the FIGU Community continue to claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446, reflects an opinion of those who, for their own reasons, chose to ignore Billy's Contact Report information about Pi including Christian Frehner; a trusted FIGU Core member.

Christian Frehner authored the Sign of the Times No. 077 publication titled, "Important information about the circular-ratio pi!", and thrice claimed the true and correct Pi=3.1446 in his article brazenly contradicting the Contact Reports where both Billy and Ptaah clearly state the true and correct Pi remains unknown to Earth humans. Why would Christian contradict Billy's Contact Report information about Pi which sends a confusing message to the FIGU Community?

Granted everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however one would hope Christian Frehner, as a FIGU Core member, would focus on promoting the accuracy of Billy's information, but instead, published conflicting contradictory information about Pi.

Folks hope you realize there really is only one person whom may be trusted to provide truthful accurate information, and that is 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier, with the help of his Plejaren friends.

In the Giza pyramid forum discussion user Liddz shares proof Pi=3.1446 is the true and correct value. There is a lot of information (quantity vs quality) including a link to a geometric drawing offered as proof Pi=3.1446 however this proof rests upon the assumption triangle BAC is similar to triangle DCE.

The proposed proof Pi=3.1446 only works if the two triangles are similar and Liddz observes visually it should be obvious the two triangles are similar which we are expected to believe without a legitimate mathematical proof.

The two triangles are not similar because the left triangle <BAC = 51.85 degrees while the right triangle <DCE = 51.76 degrees therefore the entire math proof falls apart as a result.

If you wonder why the Pi=3.1446 advocates rely upon geometric math proofs, or pretty colored drawings, its because Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible therefore a legitimate math proof does not exist, nor will one ever be found, so the fraudsters promoting Pi=3.1446 must rely upon geometric math proofs to hide the flaws in their logic which is easily done. The fraudsters need the pretty-pictures to fake their results which cannot be done using pure mathematics.

Hello Arthur,

Actually the demonstration is completely flawed and lacks credibility.

First of all, want to acknowledge this insistence the true and correct Pi=3.1446 completely ignores and disregards Billy's and the Plejaren's Contact Reports information the true and correct Pi remains unknown. Please address the elephant in the room; why bother attempting to prove Pi=3.1446 when both Billy and the Plejaren have clearly stated this isn't possible?

I've only quoted information directly from the Contact Reports while those who continue to push Pi=3.1446 have absolutely NO Contact Report credible references. All the supposed proof Pi=3.1446 is extracted from elsewhere, and completely ignores the obvious information about Pi shared by Billy and the Plejaren namely that true value of Pi remains unknown. How can anyone who accepts the authenticity of Billy's information, ignore the Contact Report references about Pi? Unbelievable!

Further conventional mathematics proves Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible, and every mathematician, scientist and engineer in the entire world has known for the last 2000 years Pi=3.1446 is nonsense, yet against all odds, you and a token few march on like lemmings over a cliff attempting to prove the impossible Pi=3.1446 but - so be it.

Debunking this faked proof Pi=3.1446 example, requires the two triangles are similar. Rather than offer a compelling detailed algebraic analysis showing how the two triangles are similar, we learn that a piece of software says the two triangles are similar therefore it should be assumed factually correct! Seriously - this is not actually proof in-of-itself.

The request asking for help to prove the two triangles are similar algebraically is priceless because it proves an inability to actually find a valid proof the two triangles are similar (as suspected), therefore if it cannot be credibly demonstrated using algebraic equations, the two triangles are similar, the entire proof Pi=3.1446 falls apart and lacks credibility as is eventually discovered in each-and-every failed proof Pi=3.1446.

Did it not occur the primarily reason there is no algebraic proof the two triangles are similar is because they are actually NOT similar! Maybe that's why no algebraic proof exists demonstrating the two triangles are similar. You think! Had the triangles actually been similar a mathematical algebraic proof would be child's-play to derive. The fact is the two triangles are dissimilar because they have different internal angles as previously stated.

None-the-less offer the challenge to prove two triangles are similar, however the results should be presented as a logic sequence of algebraic equations, and the analysis shared here so it may be legitimized as valid and factually correct. Do the math yourself!

And so the Pi=3.1446 nonsense shall likely continue with more pretty picture proofs or claimed software results none of which is ever backed by actual logical algebraic equations and legitimate analysis to substantiate the results not withstanding the Contact Reports confirm quite clearly, the true and correct Pi remains unknown, which the Know-It-All's completely ignore.

Hello Arthur,

You expressed 'we' would be interested in an algebraic proof the two triangles are similar which implies belonging to group of Pi=3.1446 enthusiasts. I feel so alone now being the only advocate in entire world-wide FIGU Community standing up to defend the Contact Reports information true Pi remains unknown, and also the sole supporter defending the worldwide scientists, mathematicians and engineering community who understand Pi=3.1446 is impossible, and so admire you and your groups conviction promoting Pi=3.1446 in spite of such overwhelming obstacles.

Perhaps your group of Pi=3.1446 enthusiasts may also feel alone because, as much as you've tried, no academics will take your proofs Pi=3.1446 seriously yet discovering the true and correct Pi=3.1446 must be the single greatest mathematical discovery since Archimedes first discovered Pi. Therefore recommend you folks get together and nominate someone from your group for a Nobel Peace prize for having discovered Pi=3.1446 which is truly remarkable. Perhaps Harry would volunteer?

Do humanity a favor, disregard Billy's and Ptaah's information the true Pi remains unknown, and stick to your convictions Pi=3.1446, and share your group's discovery with the rest of the world to enjoy and benefit from this amazing discovery which will lead to incredible breakthroughs and advances in science and technology beyond our SOL.

For your convenience I am providing a link to the Nobel Peace Prize nomination process. A little advice, when presenting the proof Pi=3.1446 to the adjudicating committee, be fully prepared to defend your proof and have lots of colored drawing, a good supply of round disks (but don't use Savio's disk because he physically measured Pi=3.141), and also plenty of measuring tapes, some handy software to generate your preferred results, and some cheerleaders might help for moral support. Just a thought maybe you could pass onto the group. Good luck!

Hello Arthur,

A bit of advice stop showing pretty pictures as proof, rather demonstrate some understanding of the math, and provide the algebraic equations proving the two triangles are similar. Up your game if you ever hope to convince anyone Pi=3.1446. The Nobel Peace Prize committee are a stickler when it comes to showing proper mathematical proofs.