Pi number

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Harry Lear employed a clever ruse to fake his Pi=3.1446 proof. How Harry faked his 'geometric math proof is documented here: [https://netpic.isgreat.ca/upload/2024/02/10/20240210115628-7310302b.pdf]

In Contact Report 712, Ptaah makes it perfectly clear traditional Pi = 3.14159 is currently the most accurate estimate of true Pi as highlighted in this document: [https://netpic.isgreat.ca/upload/2024/02/10/20240210115627-dcb2c1fe.pdf]

The only way to save the Earth from Apophis will be with help from the world-wide academic community of scientists, mathematicians and engineers all of whom know, beyond any doubt, Pi=3.1446 is complete and total nonsense. As long as anyone within the FIGU community, who understands the Apophis threat is real and so tries to warn the world-wide academic community, by telling them the correct value for Pi=3.1446, you will be politely branded a fool and completely ignored because you cannot both promote the lie Pi=3.1446 and also claim the Apophis threat is real and be expected to be taken seriously.

Finally of those who continue to promote Pi=3.1446 note that no where has Billy nor the Plejaren ever verified confirming the true and correct Pi=3.1446. The FIGU Community should only promote what's actually written in the Contact Reports. The only one from the FIGU Community who has promoted and claimed Pi=3.1446 is Christian Frehner however Christian is admittedly not a mathematician, and if one read Contact Report 712, and I mean really read it thoroughly and understand Ptaah's message, it becomes very clear Ptaah endorses traditional Pi=3.14159 is and will remain the most accurate estimate of true Pi for a very long time.

Hush

I do like a good fairy-tale and every now-and-then, thank you, however if you want to learn the truth, please read the information I've provided which explains why every scientist, engineer and mathematician in the world for last 2000 years knows conventional Pi=3.14159 is the closest and best estimate of true Pi, as also confirmed by Ptaah in Contact Report 712 unless you think you are 'smarter' than Ptaah!

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Suggest also reading Contact Report 722, where Billy Meier clearly states that due to Earth's primitive technology is why "IT HAS NOT YET BEEN POSSIBLE TO DETERMINE THE CORRECTNESS OF THE PI NUMBER". So if I understand correctly you, Harry Lear and others, who continue to claim the true and correct value Pi=3.1446, prefer to blindly ignore Billy's Contact Report 722 information that clarifies its not possible for Earthlings to determine the true and correct value of Pi due to our lack of advanced technology which would include any foolish primitive attempts to physically measure a round disk. But if we consider perhaps you are correct, and the true and correct Pi=3.1446, contrary to Billy's information in CR 722, that would make you also smarter than Billy. Well done.

Hush

You've shared a lot of information on numerous subject matter however the subject matter focus is on the correct Pi value.

What I have presented is factual information extracted directly from Contact Reports 712 and 722 and when this information is taken in context and truly understood, the message quite clearly states Earth technology is far too primitive to determine the correct value of Pi and although its true value remains unknown (Billy CR 722) the best estimate of true Pi is actually traditional Pi=3.14159 (Ptaah CR 712). It can't be more plainly stated nor be more clear!

If one is unable to comprehend the message stated in CRs 712 & 722 regarding Pi, then nothing further can be gained. Obviously someone with a strong belief is no longer curious to learn the truth as presented in the Contact Reports. I've shared credible information extracted directly from the Contact Reports on the subject of Pi whereas you claim the Plejaren agreed the true and correct Pi=3.1446 without including a credible Contact Report references that would corroborate your information and therefore, what you have presented is conjecture stemming from one's opinion.

Christian wrote an article endorsing Harry's claim Pi=3.1446, but his article directly contradicts the information in Contact Reports 712 & 722 as Billy Meier himself states in CR 722 the true and correct value of Pi cannot be determined. So how is it possible Christian claims the true and correct Pi=3.1446 while Billy states Earth technology is too primitive to determine the correct Pi number? Logically these two statements cannot coexist and both be correct so either Christian or Billy is telling a lie. Who do you trust more?

Only Billy's writings may be trusted as factual and accurate information as no one else on our planet, not even Christian, has the authority given by the Plejaren to share new information with Earthlings. Therefore you will never find a single article or sentence written by Billy or the Plejaren endorsing Pi=3.1446 because Pi=3.1446 is a fraud, lie and a scam. In fact, the true and correct value of Pi is so complicated it is well beyond Earth scientific knowledge and understanding of the concept. Only information written by Billy in the Contact Reports or in any of Billy's other writings may be trusted as accurate and correct but if you prefer to believe Christian over Billy, that's your prerogative

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Harry Lear precisely cut a round wooden disk using a CNC machine and physically measured a disk circumference of 3.144 m. How do you suppose a CNC machine physically cuts circular shaped objects? Well CNC machines are digitally encoded to cut round objects using traditional Pi=3.14159. When slicing a 3D model for cutting on a CNC machine, a .gcode file is created that contains the digital cut-positions around a circle based on traditional Pi=3.14159. As a result physically measuring the circumference of CNC cut disk will actually equal 3.141 m, or traditional Pi=3.14159, if done properly, accurately and with a high degree of precision.

Long-time FIGU Forum member Savio and his friend, exercised due care and precision throughout their experiment whereby they cut a 'metal' disk using a CNC machine and then precisely physically measured the disk circumference equal to 3.141 m NOT 3.144 m. This proves when the experiment is done properly, physically measuring the circumference of a round CNC cut-disk will yield Pi=3.141 or traditional Pi.

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Contact Report 251 clarifies when the error in Pi will be solved and by whom. The error in Pi will be solved by Earth's future brilliant scientists at a time when our weakening Sun's nuclear fusions bring enormous changes to the Sol-system. As there are no imminent threats from the Sun capable of causing enormous changes to our Sol-system, Billy is referring to a distant future, centuries from now, when the error in Pi will be solved. This should be obvious and couldn't be more plainly stated.

Therefore only when the gravitational field becomes out of control, at that time, Earth's scientists perform at their best, and solve the miscalculation underlying the pi number. CR 251 clearly states the error in the Pi number will only be solved 'AFTER' our weakening Sun's nuclear fusions bring enormous changes to the Sol-system.

Billy's information is perfectly clear nor can it be more plainly stated that the true and correct Pi cannot possibly be solved before this time. Therefore when one accepts the information in CR 251, as written by Billy, and deemed correct and accurate, then to claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446 has been solved NOW, directly contradicts the information in CR 251.

Billy's Contact Report information about Pi (CR 251, 712, 722), reinforces what Earth scientists have known about Pi for the last 2000 years; that conventional Pi=3.1419 is currently the best estimate of true Pi. Anyone who continues to claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446 not only opposes the worldwide academic community, who know Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible, but also is directly contradicting information provided by Billy about Pi in the Contact Reports.

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Ptaah advises Billy to no longer concern yourself with the true and correct value for Pi.

Ptaah advises Billy stop fretting about the true and correct value of Pi, because conventional Pi=3.14159 is already extremely close to true Pi. In CR 712, Ptaah further clarifies that conventional Pi=3.14159 may be used for all circular round calculations in both math and physics. Therefore it may be concluded the error in Pi is absolutely nothing to worry about as Ptaah says, because conventional Pi=3.14149 works just find for all circular computations. Where the error in Pi becomes significant, is at a level of knowledge and understanding that extends far beyond our current Earth human understanding and capability.

Hush

In Contact Report 712 'Ptaah' states an 'instrumentarium' is required, which has not yet been invented, in order to calculate the true and correct Pi value therefore neither at present nor for the time being will anyone on 'Earth' be able to determine the true and correct value Pi .

Ptaah clarifies neither the scientific-mathematical experts nor the group he refers to as "KNOW-IT-ALLS" will be able to solve for the true-and-correct value of Pi at present nor for the time-being. Isn't it interesting Ptaah specifically thought to mention "KNOW-IT-ALLS", when identifying the group who will be unable to solve the true and correct value of Pi. The Know-It-Alls are those who are not scientific-mathematical experts - but think they are.

Hush

This is a duplicate post copied-n-pasted from above and offers no new insight. The information in the Contact Reports 251, 712, & 722, if read and understood, clearly state the true and correct Pi cannot be determined by Earthly humankind at this time therefore to claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446 has indeed now been determined, reflects the opinion of someone who prefers to ignore the factually correct and accurate information about Pi provided by Billy in the Contact Reports.

Hush

In Contact Report 260, Billy presents Guido's Pi calculation however the Plejaren DO NOT confirm Guido's Pi number is the true and correct value. Billy, is somewhat disappointed by Ptaah's response, as it appears Guido has done some amazing calculations, but Billy also anticipated the Plejaren would be unable to comment on the accuracy of Guido's Pi calculation.

In Contact Report 712, Ptaah states the true and correct Pi mathematical constant has not yet been calculated precisely on Earth.

The information shared by Ptaah CR 712 actually confirms Pi=3.1446 is the WRONG number. The logic is as follows:

The only one's of Earth origin who claim the true and correct Pi=3.1446 are Know-it-Alls (Ptaah CR 712)
However the true and correct Pi value has not been determined on Earth (Ptaah CR 712)
If Earthly Know-it-Alls had calculated the true and correct Pi=3.1446, Ptaah would have to acknowledge the true and correct value Pi has been determined on Earth however Ptaah states the true-and-correct Pi value remains unknown on Earth
Know-It-Alls of Earthly origin who claim to have solved the true-and-correct Pi=3.1446 have therefore been unsuccessful since Ptaah states the true-and-correct Pi has NOT 'yet' been precisely calculated on Earth
Since the true-and-correct Pi number has not yet been calculated on Earth, logically then Pi=3.1446 is the WRONG Pi value

Conventional mathematics easily proves Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible but Know-It-Alls refuse to learn Math to verify this basic provable concept, however one does not need to be a math expert to understand Pi=3.1446 is the WRONG value. All anyone needs to do is read the Contact Reports, trust and understand the information presented by Billy, to learn the truth about Pi.

Hush

Dear Arthur,

Right so I guess its perfectly fine to support the nonsense Pi=3.1446 but as soon as someone tries to share the truth its unworthy and misinformation.

The best way to determine the true and correct value for Pi is to review the information about Pi in the Contact Reports which is what I have provided at length. Therefore if one trusts the information in the Contact Reports my information is credible whereas yours is not because you have NO Contact Report references to support the opinion Pi=3.1446. To support the opinion Pi=3.1446 actually requires one to ignore, disregard, and trivialize, the information in the Contact Reports about Pi.

You prefer to not 'banter' because it would be foolhardy to contradict the information I've quoted directly from the Contact Reports.

You have ZERO credible information supporting your claim Pi=3.1446, nor do you have any corroborating information from Billy or the Plejaren, supporting the claim Pi=3.1446. I had grown weary of watching lies being spread within the FIGU Community claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446 which is complete nonsense. The FIGU Community is all about spreading the truth after-all and imagine you may consider sharing the truth a worthy cause and the Contact Reports provide an invaluable wealth of truthful knowledge which you seem to be ignoring for some reason?

Harry, simply measured the circumference of a wood disk equal to 3.144 m, claimed to have solved the true and correct Pi and many who are naive and gullible, believed the Pied Piper's claim-to-fame. Isn't it interesting Savio; long-time FIGU Community member, also physically measured the circumference of a metal disk with Pi=3.141 however no one ever talks about Savio's incredible success measuring traditional Pi=3.14159 because his achievement fails to support the one-sided opinionated gewalt narrative Pi=3.144 you and others have been actively 'pushing' onto the FIGU Community.

I've only presented credible information from Billy and the Plejaren, extracted directly from the Contact Reports, which provides irrefutable content the true and correct Pi has not yet been determined and traditional Pi=3.14159 remains the best estimate of true Pi. Conventional mathematics also proves Pi=3.14159 is the best estimate of true Pi and Pi=3.1446 is physically impossible. So there you have it, both the Contact Reports and traditional mathematics corroborate making it perfectly clear Pi=3.1446 is wrong.

How or why you or anyone else would continue to promote this false narrative Pi=3.1446 is beyond comprehension when considering such overwhelming evidence in the Contact Reports and conventional mathematics which proves the best estimate of true Pi=3.14159.

More and more folks are waking up and realizing the claim Pi=3.1446 is a lie, hoax, scam and a fraud. Someday Arthur, you will realize you were on the wrong side of history. Even now very very few folks and fewer everyday, believe the nonsense Pi=3.1446. This is because anyone who reads the Contact Reports relevant sections about Pi, will understand Billy's and Ptaah's clear and simple explanation true and correct Pi remains unknown, and so why would anyone continue to waste the FIGU Community's time 'pushing' this ongoing nonsense claiming the true and correct Pi=3.1446 has been determined when the Contact Reports make it so obvious this is untrue? Defies all reason, logic and sensibility.

Liddz

Hush : More information saying that Traditional Π = Pi = 3.141592653589793 is false:

The currently accepted value of Pi = (10 ^ 12)/(16255123/10213395)/(2)/(10 ^ 11) = 3.141592653589793 and is called regular Pi by some mathematicians.

Regular Pi = (10 ^ 12)/(16255123/10213395)/(2)/(10 ^ 11) = 3.141592653589793 is wrong and does NOT belong to a circle but belongs to a polygon with many edges instead and you MUST always remember that a circle does NOT have any edges so that further proves that Traditional Π = Pi = (10 ^ 12)/(16255123/10213395)/(2)/(10 ^ 11) = 3.141592653589793 is false.

Traditional Π = Pi = (51066975/16255123) = 3.141592653589793 is false.

Traditional Π = Pi = ((10 ^ 42)/(30685681/9640191)) = 3.141592653589793 is false.
Traditional Π = (4/√(48908982/30169519)) = 3.141592653589793 is false.

Common sense should tell you that a polygon and a circle are NOT the same thing but you are acting as if a circle and a polygon are the same thing when a circle is different from a polygon. A circle is defined by my dictionary as a plane figure with points that are equally distant from a central point.

My dictionary says that a polygon is a plane figure with a minimum of 3 edges.
A polygon can have many edges.

It is impossible for a polygon to become a circle and that means that Pi MUST be larger than 3.141. 3.141 belongs to a polygon with more than a trillion edges but a circle does NOT have any edges. A polygon is identified and known by the number of edges that the polygon has got for example a Decagon is a polygon with 10 edges.

It is impossible for a polygon with an infinite amount of edges to exist because a polygon is identified and known by a limited amount of edges.

I repeat a circle does NOT have any edges.

There will forever be a gap between the edge of the polygon and the curvature of the circle that contains the polygon it does NOT matter if the polygon has 10 ^ 98 edges because the gap between the edge of the polygon and the curvature of the circle that contains the polygon will forever remain.

There can only be 1 Pi and that Pi MUST full-fill the following criteria:

That Pi MUST fit the definition of Pi from the dictionary the ratio of a circle's circumference divided by a circle's diameter.
That value of Pi Must have a physical counterpart. So that means the real value of Pi cannot be transcendental because transcendental numbers do NOT exist in the real world period. Transcendental numbers are only found on calculators.
There must be more than 1 geometric proof for the true value of Pi including the squaring of the circle and that involves both the creation of a circle that has a circumference that is the same measure as the perimeter of a square with just the aid of compass and straight edge alone and also the creation of a circle and a square with the same surface area with just the aid of compass and straight edge alone.

Only Golden Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144 can be used to square a circle with just compass and straight edge alone.

To calculate Pi accurately get a piece of foam board that is larger than A0 such as 2A0 and create upon the surface of the foam board that is larger than A0 such as 2A0 a circle with 1-meter diameter by using a beam compass with a radius of 50 centimeters.

After the circle with a 1-meter diameter has been created upon the flat surface of the piece of foam board that is larger than A0 such as 2A0 use a Rotary circle cutter with a metal blade and a radius of also 50 centimeters to cut around the contours of the circumference of the circle with a 1-meter diameter that was created upon the flat surface of the foam board that is larger than A0 such as 2A0.

The length of the tape measure should be a minimum of 3200 millimeters. Wrap the length of the tape measure around the contours of the circumference of the circle with a 1-meter diameter that was created upon the piece of foam board that is larger than A0 such as 2A0. Make sure that the measurements are facing towards your eyes by measuring inwards around the circumference of the circle. The measurement should go all around the circumference of the circle finishing back at the starting position.

The diameter of the circle MUST be equal to a minimum of 1-meter = 1000 millimeters or 100 centimeters. Do NOT use a circle with a diameter that is smaller than 1-meter.

If the diameter of the circle is reduced to 1 then the circumference of the circle is Pi.
Count the amount of times the diameter of the circle fits around the circumference of the circle and then divide the measure for the circumference of the circle by the diameter of the circle to discover the true value of Pi = 3.1446.

If the diameter of a circle is 1-meter = 1000 millimeters then the circumference of the circle has a measure of 3144.6 millimeters.

3144.6 divided by 1000 = 3.1446.

4 divided by 3.1446 = the ratio 1.272021878776315. The ratio 1.272021878776315 is an approximation of the square root of the Golden ratio = √φ = 1.272019649514069 because if the ratio 1.272021878776315 is squared the result is the ratio 1.618039660085626.

The ratio 1.618039660085626 is an approximation of the Golden ratio = (√(5) plus 1)/2 = (φ) = 1.618033988749895.

The ratio 1.618039660085626 squared = the ratio 2.618052341610009. The Golden ratio = (φ) = 1.618033988749895 squared = (√(5) plus 3)/2 = 2.618033988749895.

Proof that the Kepler right triangle is the key to the true value of Pi can also be demonstrated if the length of the measuring tape is a minimum of 4 meters = 4000 millimeters, because if the circumference of the 1-meter diameter circle = 3144.6 millimeters is marked and placed on a horizontal straight line while the 1-meter diameter of the circle = 1000 millimeters is multiplied 4 equal times on a vertical straight line the result is the circumference of the 1-meter diameter circle = 3144.6 millimeters is the shortest edge length of a Kepler right triangle while the multiplication of the 1-meter diameter of the circle = 1000 millimeters = 4000 millimeters is the second longest edge length of a Kepler right triangle.

The multiplication of the 1-meter diameter of the circle = 1000 millimeters by 4 equal parts is 4000 millimeters. 4000 divided by 3144.6 = the ratio 1.2720218787763.

The ratio 1.2720218787763 is an approximation of the square root of the golden ratio of √φ = 1.272019649514069, because the ratio 1.2720218787763 squared meaning that the ratio 1.2720218787763 times the ratio 1.2720218787763 = the ratio 1.6180396600856.

Apply the Pythagorean theorem to the 2 right angles that are created from the results of the diameter of the circle being multiplied 4 equal times upon a vertical straight line while the circumference of the circle is placed upon a horizontal straight line, to get the hypotenuse of a Kepler right triangle.

We can find the correct decimal expansion for Pi as 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144 and that is to 18 decimal places. We can have as many decimal places for Pi that are larger than 18 as long as we remember that the exact value for Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144.

Pi is also defined as the ratio of the area of a circle divided by the area of the square that is located on the radius of the circle.

If a circle is created with a diameter that is the same measure as the longer edge length of a Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle then one-quarter of the circle’s circumference is the same measure as the shorter edge length of a Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle, plus both the surface area of the circle and the surface area of the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle have the same surface area.

A Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle can be divided into 8 Kepler right triangles and if the shortest edge length of a Kepler right triangle is reduced to 1 then the hypotenuse is equal to the Golden ratio of cosine (36 degrees) multiplied by 2 = (φ) = (√(5) plus 1)/2 = 1.618033988749895, while the second longest edge length of the Kepler right triangle is equal to the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069, according to the Pythagorean theorem.

A Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles has a surface area equal to 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276. A circle with a diameter that is equal to the longer edge length of a Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles also has a surface area equal to 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276.

The longer edge length of the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles has a surface area equal to 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276 is also equal to 2 times √φ = 2.544039299028138.

The shorter edge length of the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles has a surface area equal to 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276 is also equal to 2.

A circle with a diameter that is equal to the longer edge length of a Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles also has a radius that is equal to the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069. √φ times √φ = the Golden ratio of cosine (36 degrees) multiplied by 2 = (φ) = (√(5) plus 1)/2 = 1.618033988749895.

Circumference of the circle = 8.

1-quarter of the circle’s circumference = 2.

Diameter of the circle = 2 times √φ = 2.544039299028138.

Radius of the circle = the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069.

The surface area of the circle divided the surface area of the square that is located on the radius of the circle = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144, because 4/√φ times √φ times √φ = 4 times √φ/((φ)) = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144.

Surface area of the circle = 4/√φ times √φ times √φ = 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276.

Radius of the circle = the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069.

Radius of the circle squared = √φ times √φ = the Golden ratio of cosine (36 degrees) multiplied by 2 = (φ) = (√(5) plus 1)/2 = 1.618033988749895.

Pi is also defined as the surface area of the circle divided the surface area of the square that is located on the radius of the circle.

Any circle can be squared by using just compass and straight edge alone when using the real value of Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144. After you have measured a circle with a 1 meter diameter to find the exact value of Pi for yourself the next stage is to square the circle to further prove that 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144 is the real and true value for Pi.

If you have a given circle and you want to create a square with a perimeter that has the same measure as the curvature of the circle then just use your calculator and divide the diameter of the circle by the square root of the Golden ratio = √φ = 1.272019649514069 and you will automatically have the width of a square that has a perimeter with the same exact measure as the curvature of the circle.

Multiply Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144 times the diameter of the circle to confirm that the circumference of the circle is the same exact measure as the perimeter of the square.

To get the second quadrature of the circle just use the square root of the square root of the Golden ratio = √√φ = 1.127838485561682 by dividing the diameter of given circle to get the width of a square with the same surface area as the given circle.

Please remember that the ratio √√φ = 1.127838485561682 is the square root of the ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 and the ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 is the square root of the Golden ratio of cosine (36 degrees) multiplied by 2 = (φ) = (√(5) plus 1)/2 = 1.618033988749895.

The real value of pi is NOT transcendental because the real value of Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144 is the only value of pi that can fit the following polynomial equation:

4th dimensional equation/polynomial for Golden Pi =
4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144

Minimal polynomial: x4 + 16x2 – 256 = 0.

https://www.tiger-algebra.com/drill/x~4-16x~2-256=0/

The real value of Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144: Please copy and paste the following link into your web browser if you cannot click onto the following link:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4+divided+by+the+square+root+of+the+golden+ratio

Please click on the red dots in the following link to confirm that the real value of Pi = 4/√φ = 3.1446 is not transcendental.

The real value of pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144.

Minimal polynomial: x4 + 16x2 – 256 = 0

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x4+%2b+16x2+%e2%80%93+256+%3d+0

The True Value of Pi revealed = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHAOn7UfXt8

The Great Pi conspiracy part 1:

https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2015/02/05/pi/

The Great Pi conspiracy part 2:

https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2015/10/06/pi2/