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Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:36 pm
by omedam777
omedam777 wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:30 pm
C.B. wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:29 pm
From these, I used 4/sqrt(phi), knowing that r/s is the square root of the Golden Ratio:
Pi = 4/(a/b) or 4b/a
….and how do you know that r/s is the square root of the Golden Ratio?
You love to ask rhetorical questions. Figure that part out bro. Lol.
Well... If you visualize r = radius as the height of a right triangle, and s = 1/2 Side Length of the square as the base of a right triangle, you get a Kepler's Right Triangle. So logically, height/(1/2*base) = 1.272019649514
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:37 pm
by omedam777
And what's 4/1.272019649514... Again? Pi = 3.14460551103...
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:43 pm
by C.B.
Well... If you visualize r = radius as the height of a right triangle, and s = 1/2 Side Length of the square as the base of a right triangle, you get a Kepler's Right Triangle. So logically, height/(1/2*base) = 1.272019649514
This is no proof of anything.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 2:34 pm
by omedam777
C.B. wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:43 pm
Well... If you visualize r = radius as the height of a right triangle, and s = 1/2 Side Length of the square as the base of a right triangle, you get a Kepler's Right Triangle. So logically, height/(1/2*base) = 1.272019649514
This is no proof of anything.
Then.. What do you consider a proof of Pi? Because like I said earlier, your questions are now rhetorical and close to borderline non-sense.
If there is more aside from what you had already presented, then please enlighten me. Please don't act like you know all because even I don't know everything.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 2:37 pm
by omedam777
Also, Harry Lear provided ample proofs, and yours along with mine can be added to them.
Also... Did you check the desmos link I sent or you're just spitting out counter-questions to feel superior than others?
It gets infuriating being able to see the big pictures while others can't.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 2:53 pm
by C.B.
I opened this thread with a derivation of the π value. This is a mathematical proof.
I didn’t work with the golden Ratio nor with the Keplers Triangle. I just compared a square and a circle of the same perimeter. Everything else is just the result of it.
What Harry Lear got, if he got it, is empirical proof and not Mathematical.
If you want to juggle with numbers looking for interesting relationships have your fun but do not delude yourself thinking you’re proving in any way the value of π 3.1446. Otherwise you give people like Hush a reason to laugh at you, and rightly so.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:02 pm
by omedam777
C.B. wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 2:53 pm
I opened this thread with a derivation of the π value. This is a mathematical proof.
I didn’t work with the golden Ratio nor with the Keplers Triangle. I just compared a square and a circle of the same perimeter. Everything else is just the result of it.
What Harry Lear got, if he got it, is empirical proof and not Mathematical.
If you want to juggle with numbers looking for interesting relationships have your fun but do not delude yourself thinking you’re proving in any way the value of π 3.1446. Otherwise you give people like Hush a reason to laugh at you, and rightly so.
You do realise that the Golden Ratio appears AFTER the whole formula? Not before. That's why I wondered if you checked the link or not and I have a feeling you did not.
Also... I have a feeling that you are from National University of La Plata. You don't have to confirm, however if such is the case, you may need to tone down your thought process just maybe down to high school level. You don't have to, but merely a suggestion. I myself am not a scholar. I'm just a hobbyist who found an error in Pi since elementary school.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:08 pm
by C.B.
You do realise that the Golden Ratio appears AFTER the whole formula?
Could you write it in plain terms without gadgets and cryptic expressions?
As for the University of La Plata I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:19 pm
by omedam777
C.B. wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:08 pm
You do realise that the Golden Ratio appears AFTER the whole formula?
Could you write it in plain terms without gadgets and cryptic expressions?
As for the University of La Plata I don’t know what you’re talking about.
This is what I took from you in order to show you that there is something missing. How did you get to b = 0.786151. Where did that come from?
https://youtu.be/ccxVW2MIbxA?si=Id1sip9dJ9TtNXmt
- Screenshot_20250914-111327_Desmos.jpg (126.04 KiB) Viewed 1535 times
Facts are here:
- Screenshot_20250914-112955_Desmos.jpg (111.31 KiB) Viewed 1527 times
Re: The Non Transcendental, Exact Value of π and the Squaring of the Circle
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:21 pm
by omedam777
C.B. wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:08 pm
You do realise that the Golden Ratio appears AFTER the whole formula?
Could you write it in plain terms without gadgets and cryptic expressions?
As for the University of La Plata I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Which gadgets are you referring to? Calculators?