Contact Report 877

Joseph_Emmanuel

What exactly is Billy saying here? Is he actually suggesting that people take up arms (weapons, violence) against those in power in order to prevent them from taking complete control of the world and enslaving the population?

According to all that I have just explained, it must be clearly stated and said that the part of those in power that believes itself to be grandiloquently powerful – but which only believes itself to be powerful, but in reality consists only of pretenders, fools, cowards, fearful people and failures – is the one that incites the like-minded, lowly intelligent part of the population to do the same without thinking. The latter then acts just as lowly intelligent and simple-minded as the flawed and unfit of the rulers, the otherwise powerful and all other like-minded people of the same colour. The result is that the large sections of the people – who would bring about the right thing through the small minority of truly logical, rational, sensible and therefore truly thinking human beings on Earth, so that true peace, true freedom and security would arise in permanence – fail because they do not act correctly. This is because the correct decisions and actions and the power of their logic, which is not lacking, their equally clear understanding and adequate reasoning would really bring about success. However, this is stubbornly prevented by those lowly intelligent and simple-minded idiots in government and their supporters among the population, because they are not only stupid, but in their lowly intelligent and simple-mindedness they want to be more than the normal and peaceful human beings of the citizenry – and impose all kinds of idiotic things on them, who are completely satisfied with their normality and do not present themselves to the outside world, do not 'cut themselves open', do not make themselves important, do not present themselves as powerful or admirable and want to stand in the public eye and bask in it. This is in contrast to those who cling to their delusions of grandeur and might, which they use to influence the people and incite those sections of the population against the righteous, who want to set things right, but are labelled right-wing extremists by those incompetent rulers of injustice and provoke extremism and hatred against them in that section of the population, who, as a result of the wrong governmental influence, are only too happy to let off steam against the truly righteous as a shouting, jeering, destructive and viciously aggressive and possibly physically aggressive mob. This is what is currently happening in Germany, for example, in a roaring, idiotic and pathological manner, where the people are being incited against that part of the population with lies by the fallible, power-hungry and those incapable of true governance, driving them to demonstrations against the righteous, who, thinking for themselves, strive for the rights of the people and their effective freedom and want to enforce them. But the part of the blind and believing population pushes everything forward as the falsehood of the rulers demand with lies and thereby gain what they fundamentally want, namely to bring the people under their total control and completely choke off their freedom. This is what will effectively happen in the future if the people do not prevent it and do not take up arms against it. And it has to be said that if that part of the neo-NAZIs who are in government and who call the righteous of the people right-wing extremists and incite the people against them just because they want what is correct and good for the people and the country, then the people themselves should make sure that such lousy elements in government disappear.

Geo

Joseph_Emmanuel

Yes. We take up arms.
Multi international peace fighting forces. I'm pretty sure they don't or won't use pillows and fluffy bunny rabbits to preserve their peace. We're not supposed to cower down like scared little gerbils and let others suppress us. The P's have weapons and weapon ships and they use them when necessary. Defending ones self is natural. Aimlessly slaughtering people isn't the meaning here. Defending with force is natural. Even a nano sized creature that lives on the end of your eyebrow hair will defend its self with force.

Joseph_Emmanuel

Multi international peace fighting forces?

I know Billy has mentioned this several times as the way of dealing with threatening forces in the world, but no such organisation exists. And to organise it these days would mean, firstly, that you'd need someone extremely wealthy to get on board with the idea and fund it, and for people to come together globally to stand against their own governments. Do you really see that happening? When Billy says the people will have to take up arms, to me this means civil wars; except that in all countries the advantage will be with the governments.

I'm just trying to understand how this might play out with a world war on the horizon. If people are so stupid they are willing to do their government's bidding and turn themselves into murderers fighting a corrupt war, then what chance have we of taking up arms and defending ourselves? None, because it will all be lost.

How do you know when to defend yourself? Don't we need to be defending ourselves now? Don't we need to be taking up arms and using force to remove those in government who want war and who want to control the population today? I haven't read about a multi international peace fighting force being put together recently.

Thank you for replying.
Joseph

Geo

Joseph_Emmanuel

Joseph.
I wish I had an answer for you but I don't. Too much of this plays off like a sci-fi fiction novel that I don't know what to believe anymore.

"Use the 'force' Luke Skywalker and we'll win the battle of the universe"
Time travel ?
Future time travel to a future that hasn't happened yet ?
Reincarnated spirit forms that all have biblical names ?
Fly across trillions of light years distance in seconds ?
Star Trek style beaming from one location to another ?
Fly a space ship through solid rock down into the depths of earth to view the organisms that live in Lava ?

Teaching Neanderthals how to make fire ? (I thought they didn't interfere)
every bit of that claim makes zero sense.
The P's, who went back into time to teach fire making to the cavemen, came from a time LONG after we achieved making fire? So it can only be that cavemen were late or behind in the evolutionary process so bad that future people needed to go back in time and move back the time when we did learn fire making or they wouldn't have done it AT ALL, which, should have changed the entire timeline of mankind all the way to today.
Changing the past is impossible we are told yet here it is.
This fire claim is the part that set me back into realizing that this could just be the wild imagination of a fiction writer or a government group playing games with people. Just like the Qanon movement during Trumps term that spread across the world. Not just America but the whole world. Only a well funded intelligence group could have pulled that off as quickly and far reaching as it did.

Joseph. I have nearly lost my mind trying to make sense of all of this. Today I stand neutral on the fence. If it's the real deal then cool. Very exciting. If it isn't, well then it was an interesting read at best.
We're asked to "Just accept it" because Billy wrote it, though they also say not to "just accept" religion just because someone wrote it.

In all fairness, they didn't say the exact words "Just accept it" but with the very large amount of secrecy within the contact reports, or the half written tellings ending with fricking DOTS, (And its always regarding a subject that anyone who reads the reports wants to know desperately) leaving his readers hanging off a cliff, it makes me wonder if its just a teaser to keep us reading. Similar to how TV movies cut to commercial right when they're going to reveal 'who done it'

Those half sentences SHOULD NOT BE THERE at all if it were to be kept secret firsthand. just like Michael Horns childish rant when he was exposed to the Corona virus and he vented his anger publicly. His rant should have been private between he and Billy and the P's made that clear with their response to it.

All this part tellings and dots etc, creates false ideas in peoples minds. it leads to misinformation which leads to people telling other people untruths that could turn into a cult or religion.
I discuss the DOTTED sentences with other people and every damn time it leads to us drifting off into crazy town with crazy guessing BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW !

Right now in my world. I stand neutral and leave this in my pending folder. If a peace force is forming, then good. If not, then so be it. If 800 years is the timeline then I will say "Stop holding your breath" because it isn't going to happen in our current timeline.
I hope I didn't deflate your desires for this to be true. I want it to be true too but I will not accept things I didn't see with my own eyes anymore.

PS: The image I selected for my avatar explains where I am at AND as started before. I am not a Billy debunker. I am a realist. I say "Land a beam ship in my yard or do a fly-by" I promise I wont film it or tell anyone. LOL. who would believe it anyways ?

Geo

I realize that my statements might upset some people who follow Billy Meier but I reserve my right to question everything. If we don't question everything then we're all just brainless sheep following the next sheep over the cliff.
Inconsistencies need answered in order to have full understanding of
EVERYTHING.
I mean no disrespect to anyone here. I just want the true truth, even if it hurts.

Joseph_Emmanuel

GEO

It sounds to me as though you didn't come to Billy/FIGU as a result of your own inner searching, but rather as a result of your searching in the world for truths concerning unexplained mysteries such as UFOs, time travel, an interest in science fiction, Earth's history, etc. I can't say how many members of FIGU found their way here solely through an interest in UFOs. I expect there are many. But speaking for myself, I came to Billy/FIGU as a result of my own inner searching. A lot of what he says about who we are as human beings, our inner worlds and Creation resonated strongly with me. Regardless of what comes transpires in the world, there is no doubt in me concerning the authenticity and truthfulness of Billy/FIGU, the Plejaren, the mission, Creation, and the Creation-energy teaching. Yes, I have questions, as do many of us. There are so many prophecies and predictions concerning the future of mankind that it is confusing to try to make sense of them in relation to where we are and where we are going. One of my greatest concerns was how should one respond when life becomes really difficult and unreasonable demands are made upon us. For a time I was confused about this, but it is clear to me now how I must be.

The truth is, there is very little any one of us can do to create a positive change in the world. Those of us who are aware of Billy and the mission are like the transitional phase of the Age of Aquarius, where we still need to grow (in size as well as within ourselves) and gain momentum. The Age of Aquarius will come into full force in 2028, but humans won't come into full force for centuries yet. And I believe it will happen.

Yes! I believe, because I don't really know. But I'm okay with that because I trust what I have read and come to know about the mission. There is a lot about it that you simply have to accept if you want to get past the stage where you can move forward in your mind. It is no different to accepting what scientists tell you about the universe, what doctors say is beneficial for your health, what the news on the telly and in the papers report about what is happening in the world. It is not always possible to find out for yourself. You just have to take their word for it. Of course, that doesn't mean you shouldn't question it. By all means question it; question everything you are told. But you will not find an answer for everything, which leaves you in the predicament of whether or not you choose to accept what you don't know.

To be clear, accepting is not believing.

Regarding the Plejaren's insistence that they will not interfere in human affair, and the inconsistency you claim there is when Sfath teaches the Neanderthals how to make fire (CR 8150), well, mordern humans are able to think for themselves and take responsibility for themselves; neanderthals weren't and needed prompting. That is how I see it. It is no different to children at school, where they are initially taught about a subject and then later must prove for themselves what they have learned, without help from anyone.

The Age of Aquarius is the period in human history where we must grow up and become responsible human beings, and we have only ourselves to blame if we don't. Should the Plejarens interfere, then they make themselves culpable and deprive us of the experience of learning from our own mistakes; to say nothing of the fact that people like to blame others.

Geo

Joseph_Emmanuel

Thank you for your input and I respect your views.

You are correct. I was led to Billy Meier through my research regarding UFO's and the occupants who pilot them. Also with that, my interest in mysteries and earths history. There was absolutely zero interest in searching for anything regarding my inner self. You may not believe this but I am and have always been quite in tune with my inner self and I wasn't trying to improve it, Though, after reading all of the reports, I realize that it isn't just about UFO's etc and there is a spiritual side of it. so to speak, as well.
Spiritual. That word is the type of word that triggers me into questioning things I want to stay away from. Why ?
Well, I did the church thing long ago and I stopped practicing it long before Billy Meier. I knew then that that was not the way. Even with the threat of eternal burning looming in the shadows, I still knew my inner self was wise to it.
I was so turned off by the hypocrisy that I developed a hatred for it. The idea of a loving god threatening his creation with never ending pain was beyond reason.

Then now, Here, now long after flushing that religious nonsense out of my life. I find the Billy Meier case. (10 years now) and I was so God smacked by it that I stopped researching most all UFO related stories. I thought. Ok, this is the one. I've seen every UFO story out there and Im done researching.
BUT here's where my head banging comes from. There are many similarities to religion in the reports and that gives me the hebegebees (Yes that's actually a word)
I wondered, to a degree, that perhaps the words "Spiritual, Prophecy, Predictions etc were chosen by the P's simply because they are words we use on earth that we could recognize but regardless of that, they are what I call "Churchy words"
Because of my hatred for religion, I am quite sensitive to it. Along with that Church hatred, I also never once had an interest in the mysteries regarding witches, spells, ghost, crystal ball readers, demons, etc. I just wanted to clarify that about myself so there isn't any misunderstanding regarding what I am searching for.
It's never been those mysteries I just mentioned. I'm not looking for goblins.
My interest is mostly astrophysics, space, the universe, other worlds and why this world is so messed up.
With ALL of that somewhat cleared up. I am searching and I will never stop searching for the absolute truth. It's a desire in me that is tremendously powerful. But as with everything, it has to come in chunks and some of it is hard to swallow.
The questions I have regarding some of the content in the reports is legitimate.
I am a meager little stupid earth worm who is having issues with someone saying they can fly a space ship through solid rock and cruise around in hot lava or needing to go back some 50,000 years or better to teach cavemen how to make fire. ( I said "Needing" because if there was no need for it, it would not have been done) Fact.
"...I saw for myself together with Sfath when we were also with the Neanderthals, where Sfath taught them how to make fire...: CR877
(In response to your Neanderthal comment. My point was that someone back in those early days already made fire because making fire was in practice in Billy's Life time Already. So there would be no reason to go back in time. It has already been done if it exist in Billy's current time Before they left for the time travel journey. Its a paradox. This rant could go round and round for eons. )

That is difficult to swallow. Making fire was obviously achieved by the time Billy was born so whats the beef with going back to teach something that has obviously already been learned ?
"Who did Adam and Eve's children mate with?" It's that type of conundrum question that can never be answered.
The Christians will never have an answer for that because there isn't one.
I ask "Why fire teaching" Blah blah blah. Nothing of that makes sense either.

I am 'all in' regarding improving myself. I crave it. I see so many people around me that appear to be stagnant walking zombies. Even the so called smart ones. The ones that are too smart to realize they are stupid. If you knew me 15 years ago you wouldn't recognize me today because even before Billy Meier, I have been improving my inner self as I mature over time. I understand the evolutionary process.
The questions I've brought up are legitimate and anyone not questioning them, to me, are somewhat overly trusting. That dogmatic thinking can be dangerous. especially on a planet such as ours.

So yes. I want self improvement but since I am not trained in it, I search for a place to find hints to it. I didn't realize that part of my training would fall into a category involving ufology. Honestly, the easy part is the spiritual side of this because I really get the basics of it. In a nut shell. Just be truthful, honest, kind, understanding, loving, respectful, etc. It's not about Jesus or being a goody two-shoe.
I have always thought like this. It isn't that complicated to be a decent human being. Unless a person is truly deranged in their mind, we all know the rights and wrongs of most everything and all we need to do is stick to it.
The hard side of this which is frustrating is the UFO side of it and the claims within the conversations. I won't ever discard it because I know better. It's in my pending folder that is overflowing with question.

Thank you Joseph for listing to my internal torture. LOL.
I am really much more calm about this than it appears. I am just passionate about the truth and have had my fill of deception.
I doubt ever that I will get a fly by from the P's so all I can hang on is watching for the prophecies to fulfill.
Seeing is believing.
Show me god or show me a beam ship. I just want the facts and not hearsay.
That's not asking too much.