Contact 142 Different types of time travel explained and questioned by Billy with answers from Semjase :
Billy:
It concerns the forms of time-travel, if you want to give me information about this?
Semjase:
- Ask.
Billy:
Good, thank you. – Yes, recently, I had a video rental. Its title was 'The Final Countdown'. The story goes that an American aircraft carrier was driven by a magnetic storm into a dimension gate and was hurled from the year 1980 into the year 1941. Then, by an accident, so to speak, a crew member of the ship stayed behind in 1941, while the aircraft carrier returned to the year 1980 again by a new magnetic storm and by the dimension gate. Now, in the film, the left-behind crew member, who was approximately 30 years old in 1980, logically lived on from the time of 1941. This seems to be rather logical to me according to my knowledge. Now, however, comes what can no longer be logically placed into reality: The crew member left behind in 1941 pursued the outlet of the aircraft carrier in 1980, and this man, who would have had to become 69 years old in the meantime, could see himself as he went about as an approximately 30-year old crew member on the ship, which then transported him, via the magnetic storm, into the past. According to this story, he would have been left behind in the year 1941 and then would have witnessed his own birth in 1950 and then would have lived parallel with himself for thirty years, so once young and once old.
Semjase:
- That is impossible.
Billy:
Precisely, nevertheless, it is impossible if both want to live in the same time plane – both who are, nevertheless, only one person. The one staying in the past of 1941 would have had to die in 1949 at the latest, after which he would then have to be born again in 1950. This is so because the spirit form of the man is the same one at both times of his life, right?
Semjase:
- That is very clearly explained.
- So it behaves in reality.
Billy:
Well, such a coexistence of life would only be possible if two different dimensions existed.
Semjase:
- That is right.
Billy:
Good, then this case is clear. Then to the next one: Many humans are of the view that they could do different things in the past and change the future if they had the opportunity for a journey into the past. But according to my knowledge, this is impossible because the future and the apparent present have already happened, that is, because the events of the future follow from the ones that already occurred in the past. Therefore, a man could not travel, for example, into the past to kill his own father or mother. He was begotten and born by a mother. Therefore, if a man returned to the past to kill his mother or his father still before his birth, then this past-traveller could have never been born. Is this right?
Semjase:
- Sure.
Billy:
Good, so far so clear. Everything would be a paradox. And just to get around such a paradox, one would have to switch off the laws of space and time, so such a journey to the past can never take place in the way that the time-travelling person also actually arrives in the same material plane that exists in the past. And this also applies to the future. However, this also means that space and time are different in their expansion and in their speed in the past and in the future, which has the consequence for the time-traveller that he penetrates into another dimension that is not handy for him materially. He could, indeed, live in this other dimension and exist if the living conditions there allowed it, but he could not enter into connection with the life-forms there if he did not have special aids for this. He would remain virtually invisible to the life-forms of the past or future, or he could be recognised, at most, as silhouettes. Am I properly oriented there?
Semjase:
- Your explanation corresponds to the facts.
Billy:
So this also means that with the events of the film 'The Final Countdown' a certain logic does, indeed, play along with them, but in truth, the one staying in the past obviously could not have lived on in material form in the normal time plane, even if he would have then skilfully died in 1949. He only could have lived on in an invisible form or, at most, as silhouettes in the next possible time dimension during the time from 1941 to 1980, but not in material form, as this was given from 1941 to 1980, when the young man was born and was later launched with the ship into the past. Is this also right?
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Semjase:
- Surely.
Billy:
Ah, now it starts to take form. Now, if humans or machines and such travel into the past or the future, these are invisible there to the human beings or other life-forms living there, although the time-travellers can live there if they find suitable living conditions. This is in contrast to when humans or machines simply penetrate into parallel times and, thus, into parallel dimensions, which are temporal and spatial and are, thus, exactly materially the same as the time plane from which the time-travellers came. This is so even if such another parallel dimension was created somewhat sooner or later than the one from which the time-travellers came. It is just important that the spatial and temporal relationships are exactly the same, right?
Semjase:
- Why do you always ask me if you have sufficient knowledge about this?
Billy:
I just want to be sure. Well then: Time-travel into the past or future is always other-dimensional than the past or future itself. Now, however, the possibility exists, as I know from Asket and from you and was also allowed to experience myself, that there are technical possibilities for one to make himself visible in the past or in the future and to communicate with the life-forms there. However, this can only happen if the matter of the time-traveller is condensed by technological devices or by consciousness forces to such an extent that the life form becomes visible as a body of energy, which one can pass through, however, because it remains, in any case, differently dimensioned. Did I say this right?
Semjase:
- Surely.
Billy:
So next: The aforementioned relates to time-traveling with the aid of purely natural or technological processes, as they are known to human and other life-forms or will one day become known, according to their level of development. Time-travels, therefore, offer no possibility at all for changing any events, which already happened in the present or future, in the past. To these forms, however, there is still to be added that a time-travel exists which comes about via pure consciousness-related forces and, by which means, it is possible to materialise oneself in the past or in the future, but for help in each case, the matter of the past or of the future must be taken. Nevertheless, a life-form only becomes strong in this ability if he/she is accordingly developed in his/her consciousness-evolution and lives out the necessary love for that purpose. This means that such a life-form is no longer capable of committing illogical violence against the laws of nature. Thus, he/she never even enters into temptation any more, if he/she travels to the past or to the future, to commit illogical violence, such as wanting to change the future through additional acts or deeds in the past. On the other hand, his/her logical understanding is already so highly evolved that he/she already recognises and knows that nothing more can be changed in the past that would shape the future differently than what has already happened, for the future, from which the time-traveller came, has already happened as an effect of the preceding causes. If now, however, a time-traveller materialises in the past or in the future and meets himself/herself there, then this will also happen in the future if he/she came from there because the spirit, i.e. the spirit-form, of the time-traveller from the future also materialises in the past or in the future, depending on whether the trip leads from the future to the past or from the past to the future. This happened, for example, when I travelled with Asket into the past and then also into the future, and it also happened when I performed the experiment in Hinwil with the letters, which I then carried in the past, two days before the date of writing, to the post office.
Semjase:
- That is all correctly explained; it is just that for the Earth-humans, everything will be very confusing and incomprehensible.
Billy:
I have already often experienced this because for normal-thinking human beings, these things seem to be confusing and crazy. I have also noticed this in each case when talk was made about time-traveling, which I performed with you. Time and space are still inexplicable to the Earth-human, even though everything is easy to understand.
Semjase:
- That is understandable because the Earth-human still has no great knowledge about space and time.
- But on the other hand, you yourself have forgotten another important factor in your explanations, namely that time-traveling can also be carried out in a materialised form in the past or future with technological assistance.
- Just as we have demonstrated it to you.
Billy:
I have not forgotten that, and on the other hand, I even spoke of it when I mentioned time-traveling with the help of consciousness forces.
Semjase:
- Sure, but that technological aids can become highly effective time-traveling missiles through the power of consciousness, you did not mention this.
Billy:
No, I thought that I should not talk about it in such an open manner.
Semjase:
- It is all so incomprehensible to the Earth-humans that they cannot arrange any disaster with this knowledge.
- Hence, you could have calmly mentioned these matters and facts.
Billy:
Previously, however, I was not allowed to do this.
Semjase:
- Quite simply because at that time, it still would have raised too many problems for the various interested parties, in which they would have hopelessly entangled themselves.
Billy:
That has, indeed, also already happened. Some have nearly gone mad.
Semjase:
- That is known to me, but now, this danger should be avoided.
Billy:
If you say so.
Semjase:
- It is as I say.
Billy:
Then that is also good. In regards to this, that was actually everything that I had to say about time-traveling, except that now, I have the problem that we have talked too long, and nevertheless, I promised to be with my guests again in about 30 minutes. But now, 1.5 hours have passed, and somehow, I ought to be back again at the right time.
Semjase:
- You know that this is no problem.
Billy:
Of course not, with your infernal machine of a ship, indeed, nearly anything is possible.
Semjase:
- I will come down to your workroom with you for a few minutes, if you will allow me.
Billy:
Logically.
Semjase:
- Then we will go back in time about 75 minutes.
Billy:
That is enough, then I can possibly go back into the kitchen again at 00:30 hrs.
Semjase:
- Then now, position yourself here.
Billy:
What is that?
Semjase:
- You would say that it is a time transmitter.
Billy:
There are all kinds of new stuff in this new ship. Can you explain this in a little more detail once?
Semjase:
- Not today.
Billy:
I agree with you, but I would still have a question now: When you restore me back to time in each case, this is, once more, another kind of time-travel. But how this works, I have not yet found out with all my contemplating. It is only clear to me that this type of time-travel has nothing to do with forms, of which we have spoken just now.
Semjase:
- I will explain this to you once in detail, when everything is in place.
- But about this form of time-travel, you may give no one information.
- Now, however, we should go.
Billy:
Okay.